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Re: If Global Warming Is Real, Why All The Lies?

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On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 00:12:30 +0000, William Poaster wrote:

> https://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/if-global-warming-is-real-
> why-do-government-scientists-have-to-keep-cheating/
> 
> Snit, the unemployed Prescott Arizona leech in:
> 5...4..3...2..1

LOL. He responds before you even finished posting usually.

> "A few decades back, an upstanding member of the global warming alarmist
> community said that if the public was going to take the threat of man-
> caused climate change seriously, the alarmists were going to have to
> exaggerate the evidence.
> 
> It was in 1989 that Stephen Schneider wrote in Discover magazine that in
> order "to capture the public's imagination . . . we have to offer up
> scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little
> mention of any doubts we might have."

Hence movies like The Day After Tomorrow.
 
> Let's not forget that the late climatologist was first a believer in
> global cooling in the 1970s. He was worried that a new ice age was
> coming.
> 
> Of course the alarmist community has followed Schneider's script. It's
> spent much of the last three decades trying to spook the public into a
> panic.
> 
> One example of this agenda to drive fright into our brains was the
> ClimateGate scandal at Britain's University of East Anglia. A series of
> email threads between climate scientists showed that they were torturing
> the temperature data to produce evidence of warming that wasn't
> occurring.
> 
> Who can forget their conspiracy to "hide the decline"?
> 
> Don't think this is an isolated incident. News out of the United Kingdom
> over the weekend tells us that "world leaders were duped into investing
> billions over manipulated global warming data."
> 
> "A high-level whistleblower has told this newspaper that America's
> National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) breached its own
> rules on scientific integrity when it published the sensational but
> flawed report, aimed at making the maximum possible impact on world
> leaders including Barack Obama and David Cameron at the United Nations
> climate conference in Paris in 2015," the Daily Mail reports.
> 
> "The report claimed that the 'pause' or 'slowdown' in global warming in
> the period since 1998 — revealed by U.N. scientists in 2013 — never
> existed, and that world temperatures had been rising faster than
> scientists expected."
> 
> The Daily Mail identifies the whistleblower as "John Bates, a top NOAA
> scientist with an impeccable reputation." His strong objections to the
> publication "of the faulty data were overridden by his NOAA superiors in
> what he describes as a 'blatant attempt to intensify the impact.' "
> 
> Bates blames Thomas Karl, the paper's lead author, whom he said insisted
> "on decisions and scientific choices that maximized warming and
> minimized documentation . . . in an effort to discredit the notion of a
> global warming pause."
> 
> Please don't be surprised. Government-paid researchers are desperate to
> perpetuate the climate shock. They know that if there is no warming as
> they have predicted, the generous public funds that support their work
> will eventually dry up.
> 
> It is in their financial interest to keep the public tied up in knots of
> anxiety and to dupe politicians, who are eager to assume the posture of
> caring guardians of the environment so they'll to continue to hand them
> money
> 
> And it fits right in with the other evidence problems that undermine the
> global warming narrative, such as the hopelessly flawed temperature
> record, the unreliable models that can't even predict the past, and the
> possibility that as many half of the alarmist research papers could be
> wrong.
> 
> Instapundit Glenn Reynolds is fond of saying that he'll believe there's
> a warming crisis when the people who are saying it's a crisis start
> acting like it is. Maybe we'll start believing there's a warming problem
> when government scientists quit cheating to make it look like a problem
> exists.
> 
> "

I think that this assessment is the one that most conservatives believe. 
I no longer want to say that man-made global warming is not happening, 
but I do want to state that the solution to most of it will appear sooner 
than later and without any kind of government intervention. People will 
get tired of fossil fuels as well as their increasing price in favour of 
regular electricity and its relatively stable prices. The more of these 
electric cars we find on the road, the less CO2 we pump into the 
atmosphere from one year to another. The end result will be that drivers, 
at the very least, will no longer be contributing to the problem if it 
really exists. 

Nevertheless, people tend to forget that mining for the batteries a 
driver needs to power the aforementioned vehicles is no less a polluter 
than driving a gas car would be and that those batteries - once they no 
longer hold a charge - are fairly useless to everyone and not so easily 
disposable. I'm wondering whether the solution is truly better than the 
problem.

By the way, I'm aware that there are other polluters such as factories 
pumping pollutants into the air. However, I'm mostly focusing on what 
individuals contribute since they're the ones constantly being blamed for 
the whole of the problem regardless of how little they truly contribute 
to it.



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SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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If Global Warming Is Real, Why All The Lies? William Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com> - 2018-09-14 00:12 +0000
  Re: If Global Warming Is Real, Why All The Lies? SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-14 12:27 +0000
    Re: If Global Warming Is Real, Why All The Lies? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-14 14:50 -0400
      Re: If Global Warming Is Real, Why All The Lies? SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-15 15:43 +0000
        Re: If Global Warming Is Real, Why All The Lies? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-15 09:14 -0700
          Re: If Global Warming Is Real, Why All The Lies? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-15 13:22 -0700
      Re: If Global Warming Is Real, Why All The Lies? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2018-09-15 16:28 +0000
        Re: If Global Warming Is Real, Why All The Lies? SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-15 16:43 +0000
    Re: If Global Warming Is Real, Why All The Lies? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 18:53 -0700
  Re: If Global Warming Is Real, Why All The Lies? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 07:18 -0700

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