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Bug#1007717: Draft resolution for "Native source package format with non-native version"

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On 10/05/22 at 17:29 -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> At today's ctte meeting we considered whether we can start a vote on
> this, but two committee members were missing, and someone else at the
> meeting reported that they hadn't yet been able to spend enough time
> thinking through the issue to be ready to vote.
> 
> We came up with the following plan.  Below I've drafted a ballot.  Once
> each of those three individuals has let me know that they've had a
> chance to catch up, I'll start a vote.  The hope is that this can happen
> well in advance of our next meeting.  So, ctte members, if I don't
> already know that you're caught up, please write to me once you are.
> 
> ~~~~~
> 
> DRAFT
> 
> Using its powers under constitution 6.1.5, the Technical Committee
> issues the following advice:
> 
>   1. It is not a bug of any severity for a package with a non-native
>      version number to use a native source package format.
> 
>   2. Thus, we think that dpkg shouldn't issue warnings, or otherwise
>      complain, when a non-native version number is used w/ 3.0 (native).
> 
>   3. We suggest that the wontfix tag on #737634 be reconsidered.
> 
>   4. We believe that there are indeed circumstances in which
>      1.0-with-diff is the best choice for a particular source package,
>      including, but not limited to, git-first packaging workflows.
> 
>   5. We decline to comment on the recent source package format MBF.
> 
>  Option A -- issue items 1--5
> 
>  Option B -- issue items 1, 2, 3 and 5, but not 4
> 
>  Option N -- none of the above.
> 
> END DRAFT

Hi,

If it was possible to use 3.0 (native) with non-native revisions, would
there be remaining circumstances where 1.0-with-diff is the best choice?
If not, maybe the fact that this is the blocking issue should be made
explicit in (4)?

That would be a way to state: "either dpkg maints refuses to support 3.0
(native) with non-native revs, and 1.0-with-diff must not be considered
deprecated; or dpkg maints supports it, and it might be possible to
deprecate 1.0".

Lucas

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Bug#1007717: Draft resolution for "Native source package format with non-native version" Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2022-05-11 02:40 +0200
  Bug#1007717: Draft resolution for "Native source package format with non-native version" Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> - 2022-05-11 11:30 +0200
    Bug#1007717: Draft resolution for "Native source package format with non-native version" Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2022-05-11 13:50 +0200
      Bug#1007717: Draft resolution for "Native source package format with non-native version" Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> - 2022-05-11 14:10 +0200
        Bug#1007717: Draft resolution for "Native source package format with non-native version" Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2022-05-11 18:40 +0200
          Bug#1007717: Draft resolution for "Native source package format with non-native version" Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> - 2022-05-11 21:00 +0200
            Bug#1007717: Draft resolution for "Native source package format with non-native version" Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2022-05-11 21:10 +0200
  Bug#1007717: Draft resolution for "Native source package format with non-native version" Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2022-06-07 07:50 +0200
    Bug#1007717: Draft resolution for "Native source package format with non-native version" Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2022-06-07 08:20 +0200
      Bug#1007717: Draft resolution for "Native source package format with non-native version" Matthew Vernon <matthew@debian.org> - 2022-06-07 12:50 +0200
      Bug#1007717: Draft resolution for "Native source package format with non-native version" Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2022-06-07 23:00 +0200
        Bug#1007717: Draft resolution for "Native source package format with non-native version" Julian Andres Klode <jak@debian.org> - 2022-06-08 12:10 +0200
        Bug#1007717: Draft resolution for "Native source package format with non-native version" Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2022-06-08 21:10 +0200
          Bug#1007717: Draft resolution for "Native source package format with non-native version" Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> - 2022-06-08 22:40 +0200
          Bug#1007717: Draft resolution for "Native source package format with non-native version" Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> - 2022-06-08 22:40 +0200
    Bug#1007717: Draft resolution for "Native source package format with non-native version" Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> - 2022-06-07 09:40 +0200
      Bug#1007717: Draft resolution for "Native source package format with non-native version" Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org> - 2022-06-07 09:50 +0200
        Bug#1007717: Draft resolution for "Native source package format with non-native version" Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2022-06-07 13:50 +0200
    Bug#1007717: Draft resolution for "Native source package format with non-native version" Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2022-06-07 12:40 +0200
  Bug#1007717: Updated draft resolution Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2022-06-08 07:40 +0200
    Bug#1007717: Updated draft resolution Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2022-06-15 07:40 +0200
      Bug#1007717: Updated draft resolution Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org> - 2022-06-15 10:40 +0200
      Bug#1007717: Updated draft resolution Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2022-06-15 12:20 +0200
        Bug#1007717: Updated draft resolution gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org> - 2022-06-17 01:10 +0200
          Bug#1007717: Updated draft resolution gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org> - 2022-06-17 02:50 +0200
      Bug#1007717: Updated draft resolution Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> - 2022-06-15 16:10 +0200
        Bug#1007717: Updated draft resolution Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2022-06-16 09:00 +0200
          Bug#1007717: Updated draft resolution Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2022-06-17 18:50 +0200
    Bug#1007717: Ballot and call for votes Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2022-06-21 02:40 +0200
      Bug#1007717: Ballot and call for votes Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2022-06-21 02:40 +0200
      Bug#1007717: Ballot and call for votes Matthew Vernon <matthew@debian.org> - 2022-06-21 09:30 +0200
      Bug#1007717: Ballot and call for votes Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2022-06-22 18:20 +0200
      Bug#1007717: Ballot and call for votes Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2022-06-22 20:50 +0200
      Bug#1007717: Ballot and call for votes Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2022-06-23 17:10 +0200
      Bug#1007717: Ballot and call for votes Niko Tyni <ntyni@debian.org> - 2022-06-26 23:30 +0200
      Bug#1007717: Ballot and call for votes Elana Hashman <ehashman@debian.org> - 2022-06-27 01:30 +0200
      Bug#1007717: Ballot and call for votes Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org> - 2022-06-27 15:30 +0200
      Bug#737634: Bug#1007717: Native source package format with non-native version Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2022-06-27 18:30 +0200

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