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Re: Getting the latest and greatest Linux perf features on every Debian kernel

From Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.kernel
Subject Re: Getting the latest and greatest Linux perf features on every Debian kernel
Date 2021-11-12 16:00 +0100
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Em Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 10:34:33PM -0800, Ian Rogers escreveu:
> Hi,
 
> Debian currently tries to match the Linux perf tool to the version of
> the kernel that it is being run upon. Reaching out to Ben Hutchings,
> he explained to me that this was done back in 2010 due to kernel and
> Linux perf incompatibilities. This was likely the case, but it was a
> bug in the Linux perf tool that should have been fixed. It is the goal
> of the tool to be backward compatible. A problem with matching the
> tool to the kernel version is that users miss out on new features and
> fixes (this topic came up in a recent interview of the maintainer
> Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [1]).
 
> Ben Hutchings informs me that making it so that Debian ships the
> latest Linux perf tool requires updates both to the linux-base and
> linux source packages. The Linux perf tool also has many other often
> optional dependencies, like libunwind, libbpf, libpfm4, libtraceevent,
> etc. In general, having the dependency will unlock more features.
> Linux tools has its own copies of libbpf and libtraceevent, and so
> these may pose some versioning issues.

We can use LIBBPF_DYNAMIC=1 to use the distro libbpf-dev package, which
currently is going thru some growing pains as libbpf is 0.x, with
several APIs being deprecated, others renamed, and that has been a
source of friction, but should be past us with v1.0. Till then the perf
codebase is being adjusted to allow it to be seamlessly built with the
in-kernel version and with whatever libbpf-devel the distro has.
 
> I think it'd be great to get Debian shipping the latest version of
> Linux perf for its users. Hopefully we can agree to change how Debian
> packages perf currently and then work out the best way to package and
> keep it up-to-date. I look forward to everyone's help and input.

I also keep the tarballs available at:

https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/tools/perf/

Where there are instructions on how to build this detached tarball.

I regularly build perf on lots of distros, including:

  debian:9                      : Ok   gcc (Debian 6.3.0-18+deb9u1) 6.3.0 20170516 , clang version 3.8.1-24 (tags/RELEASE_381/final)
  debian:10                     : Ok   gcc (Debian 8.3.0-6) 8.3.0 , clang version 7.0.1-8+deb10u2 (tags/RELEASE_701/final)
  debian:11                     : Ok   gcc (Debian 10.2.1-6) 10.2.1 20210110 , Debian clang version 11.0.1-2
  debian:experimental           : Ok   gcc (Debian 11.2.0-10) 11.2.0 , Debian clang version 11.1.0-4
  debian:experimental-x-arm64   : Ok   aarch64-linux-gnu-gcc (Debian 11.2.0-9) 11.2.0
  debian:experimental-x-mips    : Ok   mips-linux-gnu-gcc (Debian 10.2.1-6) 10.2.1 20210110
  debian:experimental-x-mips64  : Ok   mips64-linux-gnuabi64-gcc (Debian 10.2.1-6) 10.2.1 20210110
  debian:experimental-x-mipsel  : Ok   mipsel-linux-gnu-gcc (Debian 11.2.0-9) 11.2.0

Ditto for ubuntu.

A complete list can be found in each pull request I send to Linus, see
in the last one:

  https://lore.kernel.org/all/20211107204947.1394255-1-acme@kernel.org/

Search for BUILD_TARBALL.

There is also the output for 'make -C tools/perf build-test' that tests
building with lots of combinations of optional libraries, for instance,
with LIBBPF_DYNAMIC=1, etc.

- Arnaldo

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Getting the latest and greatest Linux perf features on every Debian kernel Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com> - 2021-11-12 07:40 +0100
  Re: Getting the latest and greatest Linux perf features on every  Debian kernel Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org> - 2021-11-12 16:00 +0100
    Re: Getting the latest and greatest Linux perf features on every  Debian kernel Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com> - 2021-11-22 03:20 +0100
      Re: Getting the latest and greatest Linux perf features on every  Debian kernel Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com> - 2021-11-22 18:00 +0100
      Re: Getting the latest and greatest Linux perf features on every  Debian kernel Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2022-01-10 01:00 +0100
        Re: Getting the latest and greatest Linux perf features on every  Debian kernel Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org> - 2022-01-10 20:10 +0100
          Re: Getting the latest and greatest Linux perf features on every  Debian kernel Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com> - 2022-12-23 02:50 +0100
            Re: Getting the latest and greatest Linux perf features on every  Debian kernel Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com> - 2022-12-25 13:20 +0100
            Re: Getting the latest and greatest Linux perf features on every  Debian kernel Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2022-12-26 21:00 +0100
              Re: Getting the latest and greatest Linux perf features on every  Debian kernel Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com> - 2023-01-10 02:40 +0100
                Re: Getting the latest and greatest Linux perf features on every  Debian kernel Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2023-01-13 23:10 +0100
    Re: Getting the latest and greatest Linux perf features on every  Debian kernel Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2022-01-10 01:00 +0100

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