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Re: Wayland vs X

From The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Wayland vs X
Date 2022-03-11 23:00 +0100
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On 2022-03-11 at 16:52, Emanuel Berg wrote:

> The Wanderer wrote:
> 
>> There may be multiple reasons, but one of them is that the feature
>> set supported by Wayland (and/or the associated protocol, if any)
>> is not a superset of the feature set supported by the X protocol.
> 
> They should have covered everything used anyway ... this must be a
> blunder on their part.

My understanding (which is at best secondhand, and may well not be fully
accurate, if accurate at all) is that they thought they *were* doing
that, since obviously that one feature is a historical curiosity which
can't possibly be useful to anybody, and is only present in the spec
because the people who wrote the spec mistakenly thought it might turn
out to be useful.

Only to discover later that people actually *did* use that feature, but
by that point it was too late to implement that feature in Wayland
without breaking a lot of other things and/or requiring a deeper
redesign than would be deemed practical.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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Wayland vs X Kevin Exton <kcexton01@gmail.com> - 2022-03-08 23:20 +0100
  Re: Wayland vs X Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> - 2022-03-09 11:00 +0100
    Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-09 11:20 +0100
      Re: Wayland vs X didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-03-09 15:00 +0100
        Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-09 16:30 +0100
          Re: Wayland vs X didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-03-09 21:30 +0100
            Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-10 16:30 +0100
              Re: Wayland vs X didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-03-10 18:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-10 19:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-03-10 21:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 00:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-11 13:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2022-03-11 14:20 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-11 15:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-03-11 17:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 21:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-11 23:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-12 01:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2022-03-11 19:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> - 2022-03-11 20:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2022-03-11 22:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-11 23:20 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-12 07:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2022-03-14 16:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2022-03-14 17:50 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2022-03-14 18:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2022-03-14 20:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2022-03-14 21:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 21:20 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-11 23:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-03-11 21:50 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 22:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 22:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-03-11 22:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2022-03-16 07:20 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-03-11 22:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X conover@panix.com (John Conover) - 2022-03-11 23:00 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-03-11 22:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 23:00 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-03-11 23:00 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 23:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-12 07:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-03-12 13:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-12 13:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-12 15:00 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-12 15:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-03-13 00:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-03-12 21:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-12 22:00 +0100
              Re: Wayland vs X didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-03-10 18:30 +0100
    Re: Wayland vs X Pascal Obry <pascal@obry.net> - 2022-03-09 11:40 +0100
      Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-09 11:50 +0100
  Re: Wayland vs X Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2022-03-09 11:50 +0100
    Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-09 12:00 +0100
    Re: Wayland vs X Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2022-03-09 18:20 +0100
      Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-09 18:50 +0100
        Re: Wayland vs X Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2022-03-09 20:00 +0100
          Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-09 20:40 +0100
            Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-09 20:50 +0100
              Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-09 21:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-03-09 21:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-09 22:00 +0100
      Re: Wayland vs X Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2022-03-09 21:20 +0100
  Re: Wayland vs X 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2022-03-16 07:00 +0100
    Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-16 08:00 +0100
      Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-16 08:20 +0100
        Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-16 08:30 +0100
      Re: Wayland vs X "Byung-Hee HWANG" <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2022-03-16 08:40 +0100
      Re: Wayland vs X Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-03-16 12:40 +0100
        Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-16 13:10 +0100
          Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-16 13:20 +0100
            Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-16 13:40 +0100

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