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Re: Wayland vs X

From Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Wayland vs X
Date 2022-03-11 13:10 +0100
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* On 2022 10 Mar 17:04 -0600, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> didier gaumet wrote:
> 
> >> OK, thanks, I won't switch then I think ... I like feh and
> >> use it a lot.
> > 
> > Just to be clear in case there would be a misunderstanding
> > because my sentence was not accurate enough: what I meant is
> > feh (for example) is not directly compatible with Wayland, but
> > can be run in the X11 compatibility layer of Wayland
> > (Xwayland, the nested X server that can be run inside
> > Wayland)
> 
> No, I understood, but that sounds like too much emulator ...

My understanding is that xwayland is an X server that runs under
Wayland and the idea is that it handles X protocols but Wayland handles
the video drivers and screen drawing.

I have used Gnome on Wayland since late 2018.  It improved a lot with
the release of Bullseye.  I use this setup on two machines, a laptop and
a desktop that has two monitors.  So far I have not had any issues with
any Debian provided packages.  They just work, including feh which I call
from neomutt to display images.  No fuss, no configuration, it just
works.  I've even built and locally installed GTK2 apps without issue.

I did have a display issue with a proprietary third party program that
was built with some older version of Qt, as I recall.  That has been
replaced by a version that is FOSS and it works fine.  On the desktop
with dual monitors I have xscreensaver running and it has the most
issues with detecting events as when I do strictly keyboard work it will
time out and start running a saver.  Moving the mouse wakes it up.  It
also glitches at other times even when using the mouse, but this is not
a show stopper for me.  It also doesn't handle DPMS on Wayland either
which I can live with (I'm sure the built in Gnome blanker works just
fine).

My GPUs are stock Intel on board graphics as I don't game nor do I need
fancy 3D capability.  This hardware is sufficient for displaying the GL
screen savers and for whatever compositing requirements Gnome has.

HTH

- Nate

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Wayland vs X Kevin Exton <kcexton01@gmail.com> - 2022-03-08 23:20 +0100
  Re: Wayland vs X Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> - 2022-03-09 11:00 +0100
    Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-09 11:20 +0100
      Re: Wayland vs X didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-03-09 15:00 +0100
        Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-09 16:30 +0100
          Re: Wayland vs X didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-03-09 21:30 +0100
            Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-10 16:30 +0100
              Re: Wayland vs X didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-03-10 18:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-10 19:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-03-10 21:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 00:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-11 13:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2022-03-11 14:20 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-11 15:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-03-11 17:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 21:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-11 23:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-12 01:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2022-03-11 19:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> - 2022-03-11 20:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2022-03-11 22:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-11 23:20 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-12 07:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2022-03-14 16:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2022-03-14 17:50 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2022-03-14 18:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2022-03-14 20:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2022-03-14 21:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 21:20 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-11 23:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-03-11 21:50 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 22:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 22:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-03-11 22:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2022-03-16 07:20 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-03-11 22:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X conover@panix.com (John Conover) - 2022-03-11 23:00 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-03-11 22:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 23:00 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-03-11 23:00 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 23:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-12 07:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-03-12 13:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-12 13:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-12 15:00 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-12 15:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-03-13 00:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-03-12 21:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-12 22:00 +0100
              Re: Wayland vs X didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-03-10 18:30 +0100
    Re: Wayland vs X Pascal Obry <pascal@obry.net> - 2022-03-09 11:40 +0100
      Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-09 11:50 +0100
  Re: Wayland vs X Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2022-03-09 11:50 +0100
    Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-09 12:00 +0100
    Re: Wayland vs X Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2022-03-09 18:20 +0100
      Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-09 18:50 +0100
        Re: Wayland vs X Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2022-03-09 20:00 +0100
          Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-09 20:40 +0100
            Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-09 20:50 +0100
              Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-09 21:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-03-09 21:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-09 22:00 +0100
      Re: Wayland vs X Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2022-03-09 21:20 +0100
  Re: Wayland vs X 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2022-03-16 07:00 +0100
    Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-16 08:00 +0100
      Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-16 08:20 +0100
        Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-16 08:30 +0100
      Re: Wayland vs X "Byung-Hee HWANG" <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2022-03-16 08:40 +0100
      Re: Wayland vs X Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-03-16 12:40 +0100
        Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-16 13:10 +0100
          Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-16 13:20 +0100
            Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-16 13:40 +0100

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