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| From | Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: Wayland vs X |
| Date | 2022-03-11 19:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <DZSbv-15ik-9@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
| References | (7 earlier) <DZvoB-RE2-5@gated-at.bofh.it> <DZxA5-SRC-3@gated-at.bofh.it> <DZA4V-UqA-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <DZMfL-11Lc-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <DZNlv-12qm-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
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On 11.03.22 14:14, Christian Britz wrote: > > > On 2022-03-11 12:47 UTC+0100, Nate Bargmann wrote: > >> I have used Gnome on Wayland since late 2018. It improved a lot with >> the release of Bullseye. I use this setup on two machines, a laptop and >> a desktop that has two monitors. So far I have not had any issues with > > And what is the practical _advantage_ over a X11 setup? > > The question is serious. Everytime I tried Wayland, something was not > working as expected, uncomfortable to use and so on. Yes, Wayland > support has improved a lot, but I still do not really see what I miss > because I stick to X11. I know that Wayland has a cleaner design, but > that bothers me not too much as a user. > > Regards, > Christian > Isn't it all about X by design to not be able to safely protect a running X applications to snoop on other running X applications, something like the content of a window cannot safely kept private? I remember to have read that Wayland was invented for this reason, to overcome these security flaws of X which in the beginning of X have not been a concern to anyone, but nowadays security issues are of much importance to almost everyone. (I have no reference for this statement, just remember to have something like this read in the past) And isn't it because of Wayland protecting windows by design against other windows, that operations like Copy&Paste between GUI applications are (still) not always running smoothly and need extra efforts to become well implemented? (Again, I have no reference for this statement, just remember to have something like this read in the past) Regards, Marco
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Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-11 15:10 +0100
Re: Wayland vs X didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-03-11 17:40 +0100
Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 21:10 +0100
Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-11 23:10 +0100
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Re: Wayland vs X Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2022-03-11 22:10 +0100
Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-11 23:20 +0100
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Re: Wayland vs X The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-03-11 22:40 +0100
Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 23:00 +0100
Re: Wayland vs X The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-03-11 23:00 +0100
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Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-12 07:30 +0100
Re: Wayland vs X The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-03-12 13:30 +0100
Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-12 13:40 +0100
Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-12 15:00 +0100
Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-12 15:10 +0100
Re: Wayland vs X The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-03-13 00:40 +0100
Re: Wayland vs X Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-03-12 21:10 +0100
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Re: Wayland vs X didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-03-10 18:30 +0100
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Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-09 12:00 +0100
Re: Wayland vs X Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2022-03-09 18:20 +0100
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Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-09 22:00 +0100
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Re: Wayland vs X 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2022-03-16 07:00 +0100
Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-16 08:00 +0100
Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-16 08:20 +0100
Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-16 08:30 +0100
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