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Re: Future of KDE packages in Debian

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Dear all,

please consider that events being commented here have already happened, had 
consequences and it’s not like you can go back in time.

Debian like most human groups has rules on how to become and stay a member of 
the community. If you’re interested in them you can find pointers at :
https://wiki.debian.org/DAManager
The discussions on this have long passed usefulness and are more and more 
offtopic for a Debian mailing list for KDE users.


Regarding the maintenance of the KDE stack in Debian, as I wrote earlier help 
is very much welcome !
You’re welcome to test and report here, welcome to file bugs, welcome to step 
in and help update or maintain your favorite desktop and apps !

If you’re interested in packaging software for Debian you can start at :
https://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers/
and join the #debian-qt-kde IRC channel, subscribe to the pkg-kde-talk mailing 
list.

You’re obviously also free to go some place else if you so prefer. We’re lucky 
that the Free and Open Source community is striving with many nice projects to 
use and contribute to.

Also remember that there are people on the other side of your "apt update" who 
spend hours packaging complex software for the benefits of everyone, on their 
free time.
Gratuitous criticism of what others choose to do or not do in a volunteer 
project is uncalled for, unwelcome and only going to make things worse. So 
please refrain from doing so and if you’re unhappy with something do come and 
fix it instead. :-)


Happy hacking !
--
Aurélien


Le dimanche 23 janvier 2022, 21:51:51 CET Rainer Dorsch a écrit :
> Hi Luc,
> 
> the DAMs decision is extremly frustrating for Debian KDE users and given the
> short statement on debian-user
> 
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2022/01/msg00807.html
> 
> it is at least not clear to me if they seriously searched for a solution
> which would have served better all involved parties and the Debian (KDE)
> users. This message even increases the doubt, that searching for such a
> solution was a priority for them
> 
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2019/01/msg00186.html
> 
> I used the ... which the DAMs created in Debian KDE as opportunity and
> installed on a new desktop Manjaro stable instead of Debian to experiment
> with it (I still have Debian bullseye desktops in use). As a Debian stable
> user I considered manjaro more appropriate than Arch.
> 
> Kmail 5.19.0/21.12.0 in manjaro stable was a pleasant surprise. Even though
> it is newer than Kmail in Debian unstable, the manjaro stable upgrade to
> 21.12.1 is downloaded while I am writting. I am curious to see how this
> experiment goes in the next months in particular the updates. The good
> thing for Open Source users is that we have choice if things go into the
> wrong direction somewhere :-)
> 
> Rainer
> 
> On Sonntag, 23. Januar 2022 18:56:09 CET Luc Castermans wrote:
> > yep.
> > 
> > For me key is that we loose a very valuable contributor and great
> > contribution!    Reasons for this are unclear to me. Why this demotion,
> > are
> > those who decide on this stating and communicating their reasons, better
> > is
> > this a group decision?
> > 
> > Luc
> > 
> > Op zo 23 jan. 2022 13:59 schreef Dietz Proepper <dietz@scanthis.de>:
> > > Am Freitag, 21. Januar 2022, 01:11:44 CET schrieb Johannes Zarl-Zierl:
> > > > > I never had any issues with Norbert.
> > > > 
> > > > Full ACK.
> > > 
> > > +1. And also not with Marco, as far as I remember. Which comes with
> > > little
> > > relevance, as we did not have much contact before.
> > > 
> > > > Let's always keep discussions civil and in good faith...
> > > 
> > > Well, but jftr, let's not forget who started this thread and in which
> > > way.
> > > At
> > > the very least, citing the source of ones comments is quite basic
> > > IMNSHO.
> > > 
> > > Kindest regards,
> > > 
> > >         Dietz

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  Re: Future of "his" packages in Debian piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2022-01-20 23:10 +0100
    Re: Future of "his" packages in Debian Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> - 2022-01-21 00:20 +0100
      Re: Future of "his" packages in Debian Johannes Zarl-Zierl <johannes@zarl-zierl.at> - 2022-01-21 01:40 +0100
        Re: Future of "his" packages in Debian Luc Castermans <luc.castermans@gmail.com> - 2022-01-21 08:00 +0100
        Re: Future of "his" packages in Debian Dietz Proepper <dietz@scanthis.de> - 2022-01-23 14:00 +0100
          Re: Future of "his" packages in Debian Luc Castermans <luc.castermans@gmail.com> - 2022-01-23 19:00 +0100
            Re: Future of "his" packages in Debian Rainer Dorsch <contact@bokomoko.de> - 2022-01-23 21:50 +0100
            Re: Future of Norbert's packages in Debian Rainer Dorsch <ml@bokomoko.de> - 2022-01-23 22:40 +0100
              Re: Future of KDE packages in Debian Aurélien COUDERC <coucouf@debian.org> - 2022-01-23 23:20 +0100
                Re: Future of KDE packages in Debian Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> - 2022-01-24 00:00 +0100
                Re: Future of KDE packages in Debian Dietz Proepper <dietz@scanthis.de> - 2022-01-24 00:40 +0100
                Re: Future of KDE packages in Debian Norbert Preining <norbert@preining.info> - 2022-01-24 01:10 +0100
                Re: Future of KDE packages in Debian Marco Valli <marco@bastardi.net> - 2022-01-24 11:50 +0100
                Re: Future of KDE packages in Debian Luigi Toscano <luigi.toscano@tiscali.it> - 2022-01-24 12:00 +0100
                Re: Future of KDE packages in Debian Luc Castermans <luc.castermans@gmail.com> - 2022-01-24 12:20 +0100
                Re: Future of KDE packages in Debian Norbert Preining <norbert@preining.info> - 2022-01-24 14:10 +0100
    Re: Future of "his" packages in Debian Aurélien COUDERC <libre@coucouf.fr> - 2022-01-21 08:20 +0100
      Re: Future of "his" packages in Debian piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2022-01-22 14:00 +0100
        Re: Future of "his" packages in Debian Luc Castermans <luc.castermans@gmail.com> - 2022-01-22 14:40 +0100
  Re: Future of "his" packages in Debian Dietz Proepper <dietz@scanthis.de> - 2022-01-22 09:50 +0100
    Re: Future of "his" packages in Debian Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2022-01-22 10:40 +0100

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