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Re: Another day

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Another day
Date 2016-08-22 16:13 -0700
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On 8/22/16, 4:00 PM, in article fhoo9afa.jud7@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.
Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> wrote:

...
>>> You are wrong.
>> 
>> I welcome support for how a vote for someone can become a lack of vote for
>> someone.
> 
> A vote outside the group of possible winners is a wasted vote.

That is your opinion... as is who is a "possible winner." At this point it
seems unlikely Trump will win. Do you consider a vote for him to be
"wasted"?

...
>>> Polls don't count.  Votes count.
>> 
>> So what makes you think others cannot win?
> 
> History and common sense.  The fact that the potential third party
> candidates will not be on all ballots.

But it is possible one of both candidates will, for whatever reason, have to
drop out or become unable to run.

>>> The only way one wins over the other is if that person's vote count is
>>> higher.
>> 
>> Which may or may not be the actual vote! Sigh... Clinton.
> 
> True dat.

Unlike you I do not feel obligated to support ANYONE, Democrat or
Republican. I back people if they are decent candidates. Right now Stein is
likely the best but she is NOT a leader... and has made comments about
vaccinations which are a bit silly (pandering perhaps)?

>>> A vote for another candidate besides one of those two is wasted.
>> 
>> You keep saying this but offer no support... nor explain why a vote for
>> Trump is not "wasted" given how he is unlikely to win.
> 
> You say he is unlikely to win.  I say he is likely to win in a landslide.
> There is a legitimate question there, between Hillary and Trump.  Both
> of them have an actual chance.  No one else does though, so a vote for
> someone else is wasted.

So there is a question as to whom can win... or is likely to. Thus no vote
is "wasted."


... 
>>> A choice for one of the only two candidates who will possibly win is not
>>> wasted on either of those candidates, because it is those very votes
>>> that will determine who wins.
>> 
>> Well, given the election fraud that is happening not even that is true, but
>> above you discount polls... so what makes you think only those two have a
>> chance?
>> 
> 
> Because election fraud is not going to put a third party candidate
> in office, and even if it results in a House selection of the Pres.,
> they will choose one of Hillary or Trump.
> 
>>> On the other hand, a vote for candidate C, in an election where it is
>>> guaranteed that only A or B will win, is a wasted vote.
>> 
>> What do you base this on? And why can only A or B win?
> 
> Because only A or B has the money, popularity, party machinery, etc.,
> to win.

How do you know they have popularity? Heck, who else has a LOWER rating than
the two of them on trustworthiness and likability?

...
>> So you keep saying but never support... and it is contrary to your original
>> claim that it WAS support for one of the two main candidates.
>> 
> 
> Nope.
> 
> Anything other than a vote for Hillary is a vote for Trump, because
> you *could* have voted for Hillary but didn't, thereby depriving
> her of a vote.

A vote for Trump is a vote for Trump. A vote for Clinton is a vote for
Clinton. Other votes are not votes for EITHER.

It is like saying if you pick Linux then you are backing Windows and Mac.
Utter nonsense. 

> Anything other than a vote for Trump is a vote for Hillary, because
> you *could* have voted for Trump, but didn't, thereby depriving him
> of a vote

So a vote for neither is a vote for both by your twisted logic.

>>> A chance to tip the scale one way or the
>>> other that was neglected because you could not man up and make a decision.
>> 
>> You assume if I do not make a decision YOU approve of I did not make a
>> decision. That is faulty thinking on your part.
>> 
>>>> But you say not voting for either shows support for Clinton... others tell
>>>> me it shows support for Trump. Both claims are absurd.
>>> 
>>> I'm saying that you have the chance to vote for a decent human being
>>> who has this nation's best interest at heart (Trump), or a vote for
>>> a criminal serial liar (Hillary, spawn of Satan) who will sell us
>>> out to the highest bidder and probably get us into a world war.
>> 
>> Your assessment of each is absurd.
> 
> LOL.  What would you know about it.  You're brainwashed.

The idea that either has the nation's best interest at heart is silly... and
the "spawn of Satan" comment is hyperbole.

...
>>> Are you or are you not a libtard?
>> 
>> I do not even know what you mean by the term, though it is clearly a
>> reference to liberals with ties to derogatory terms of people with mental
>> handicaps. More of your bigotry showing through.
> 
> There you are calling me hurtful names.  Nice self-nuke.

I called you no names. I noted your use of bigotry. And now I will note your
lack of defining your own term.

...
>>> In that case, Hillary Clinton thanks you for your support.  And you will
>>> share responsibility for what she does to this country if she wins.
>> 
>> I do not support her either. The concept of not supporting either simply
>> goes over your head.
> 
> What goes over your head is simple math.  Your friends are right.  If you
> are someone who would ordinarily vote Democrat but are now voting some
> other way because the Democrat is Hillary, then you are netting Trump
> a vote that he would not ordinarily have.  Same for Republicans who
> don't vote for Trump.  They are netting Hillary a vote she would not
> otherwise have.

This is not complex:

* A vote for Trump is a vote for Trump
* A vote for Clinton is a vote for Clinton.
* A vote for nether is a vote for neither.
* A vote does not imply it is a counted vote, sadly.

Candidates have to EARN votes.



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                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 10:11 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 17:29 +0000
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 18:12 +0000
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 19:19 +0000
                Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 10:33 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 21:20 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 21:27 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 14:04 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 13:07 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 18:00 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 18:18 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 23:40 -0600
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 08:26 -0400
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 08:37 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 11:42 -0600
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 11:49 -0600
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 14:08 -0400
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 21:18 -0600
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 09:47 -0400
        Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 12:00 -0600
          Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 11:13 -0700
            Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 15:57 -0600
              Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 15:16 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-23 22:31 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 15:44 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-23 23:00 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 16:07 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:25 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 21:40 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:22 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 21:39 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 11:59 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 11:41 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 21:14 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 20:50 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 12:39 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 12:07 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 17:44 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 18:17 -0700
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-23 20:07 -0400
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 01:02 +0000
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 09:59 -0400
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 14:25 +0000
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 10:58 -0400
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 15:16 +0000
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:16 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 21:34 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:09 -0600
              Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-23 20:08 -0400
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 01:10 +0000
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:28 -0600
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 10:12 -0400
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 09:03 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:20 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 11:41 -0700
                Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 12:29 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 13:55 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:11 -0700
                Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 13:20 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 20:33 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:45 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 20:50 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 14:02 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 13:54 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:10 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:19 -0600
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 09:32 -0400
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 10:54 -0400
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 11:08 -0400
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 12:03 -0400
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 12:47 -0400
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 12:19 -0600
    Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 11:59 -0600
      Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 11:16 -0700
        Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 15:59 -0600
          Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-23 22:13 +0000
            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 15:18 -0700
            Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:29 -0600
          Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 15:14 -0700
            Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:33 -0600
              Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 07:56 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:23 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 11:43 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 13:53 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:10 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 20:22 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:26 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 20:36 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:46 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 20:58 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 20:14 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 12:18 -0600
          Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-23 20:47 -0400
            Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 01:24 +0000
              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:48 -0600
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 05:06 +0000
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:27 -0600
              Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 10:24 -0400
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 14:34 +0000
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 10:58 -0400
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 15:14 +0000
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:30 -0600
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 10:00 -0400
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 08:58 -0700
                Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 09:24 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:31 -0600
                Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 12:16 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 13:51 -0600
                Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 13:17 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 20:56 -0600
                Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 20:33 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 12:16 -0600
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:30 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 11:49 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 13:48 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:09 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 20:55 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 20:13 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 12:15 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 11:44 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 17:22 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 17:48 -0700
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 07:57 -0400
                Re: Another day -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-26 06:41 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 11:35 -0600
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 13:51 -0600
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 16:17 -0600
                Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 13:03 -0700
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 08:36 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 16:09 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 09:27 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 11:33 -0600
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 13:44 -0400
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 13:44 -0600
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 17:14 -0400
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 16:10 -0600
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 13:48 -0600
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 16:16 -0600
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 12:24 -0600
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:28 -0600
                Re: Another day Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-08-25 07:10 -0400
            Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:46 -0600
              Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 09:58 -0400
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 14:28 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 08:54 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 13:47 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:08 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 20:45 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 20:03 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 12:00 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 11:12 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 17:09 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 17:37 -0700
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 14:50 -0400
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 17:07 -0600
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 19:23 -0400
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 18:25 -0700
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 10:44 -0400
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 09:47 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 11:58 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 11:04 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 17:05 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 17:37 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 23:38 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 08:39 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 11:26 -0600
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 13:42 -0600
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 14:47 -0400
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 11:53 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 17:04 -0600
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 19:20 -0400
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 18:24 -0700
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 17:36 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 23:37 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 07:53 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 11:56 -0600
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 11:04 -0400
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 11:53 -0600
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 19:16 -0400
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-25 23:22 +0000
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 19:24 -0400
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-25 23:37 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 18:26 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 02:51 +0000
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 22:54 -0400
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 19:59 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 03:01 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 21:19 -0700
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 19:56 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 03:00 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 20:31 -0700
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 22:29 -0400
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 02:50 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 19:57 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 03:04 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 20:31 -0700
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 08:22 -0400
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 07:58 -0400
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 18:26 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:44 -0600
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:43 -0600
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 19:15 +0000
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 10:19 -0400
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 11:51 -0600
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 14:42 -0400
  Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 08:38 -0400

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