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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Developers Not Programmers |
| Date | 2016-03-26 20:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D31CA70D.6EA2D%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink) |
| References | (10 earlier) <ghjdao03.afea3@rooftop.invalid> <nd4c7a09h2@news3.newsguy.com> <nd4jhj$qca$1@dont-email.me> <nd64ub02sda@news6.newsguy.com> <nd6vij$4j4$1@dont-email.me> |
On 3/26/16, 2:42 PM, in article nd6vij$4j4$1@dont-email.me, "Peter Köhlmann"
<peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
> You don't have the foggiest what you are
> babbling about, Snit. As usual
At least I am not as ignorant and dishonest as you show you are with these
quotes:
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Peter Köhlmann:
-----
Without *any* exception I could not reproduce the "errors" he
claims exist in KDE.
----
Bug reports based on the videos: <https://goo.gl/4GKaP9>.
Peter admitted he is not competent enough to replicate bugs on KDE even when
he sees them in videos!
Message-ID: mv6apr$ko0$1@dont-email.me
<https://goo.gl/JSbhvF>
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Peter Köhlmann:
-----
| I am one of the few people who literally started working with
| UNIX, PCs, and Macs all on the same day (sometime in Sept.
| 1987).
Pull the other one. At that time there was no OSX. That came 14
years later So you had no "Unix" to play with...
-----
Peter shows he thought UNIX did not exist before Apple released OS X!
In COLA in 1995 I spoke of my UNIX use: <https://goo.gl/TCRJCd>.
Message-ID: mtdqe5$isu$1@dont-email.me
<https://goo.gl/sXbJLw>
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Peter, above this video <https://youtu.be/JFQOgBkCkSM>:
-----
Did you make the video unreadable for some reason? There is no
such entry in Finder. So you naturally had to obscure the video
...
You showed nothing. You showed a video which is unreadable
...
I knew that you would come up with a trick like this. So now you
lied by not making readable what you really clicked on
-----
That is right: Peter Köhlmann cannot figure out how to view a basic YouTube
video in a way that is "readable" on his Linux system. No way for me to
replace the video - anyone can see for themselves it is of fine quality.
Peter just thinks posting to YouTube is a way to "obscure the video."
Message-ID: mo9g7c$c25$1@dont-email.me
<https://goo.gl/BIeenM>
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Peter Köhlmann:
-----
I have a pretty good idea why you try to avoid sites like YouTube:
They can be commented. And you fear the comments more than
everything else
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Snit:
-----
You can block comments on YouTube.
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Peter Köhlmann:
-----
Really? Do you really think that your Firefox extension will still
work? Why would YouTube allow to disable comments? They have
activly disabled all extensions which tried to do that And the
mere fact that you know about disabling comments (even if it does
not work anymore) shows that you have tried to do just that.
Because you can't stand having comments about your idiocy
-----
Peter thinks a local Firefox extension could disable comments on a public
server (until YouTube "disabled" that ability), showing ignorance one might
expect from an octogenarian newbie. More detail here:
<http://youtu.be/iFFF_DQPgiI>. Note: comments are on. :)
Message-ID: mo9g7c$c25$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/Sux1iL>
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Peter Köhlmann:
-----
| Heck, how much of the original Linux code is in the current
| Linux code?
Very little. Just look at the line count of the kernels alone
-----
When asked how much original code is in the current Linux code, he says
"Very little", which may be true, but his "support" of this claim show no
understanding of basic logic. The size of the current code is not relevant.
Message-ID: moulb7$okm$1@dont-email.me
<https://goo.gl/YwzD95>
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On being shown this image which makes it clear I installed calligra from the
"Software Manager" on Mint MATE 17.2:
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/install-calligra>
Peter Köhlmann concludes:
-----
He grabbed the windows install-exe. And then wondered that he had
wine not installed correctly
-----
RonB, jumping in to back Peter's ignorance:
-----
Now we've got the "Snit" idiot installing Calligra via Wine in a
Virtual Machine.
-----
These "advocates" cannot figure out the difference between installing a
program via the "Software Manager" and doing so via Wine!
Message-ID: mo6tdk$tvn$2@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/cf1OSY>
Message-ID: mo8g1i$dhq$2@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/GTT5e9>
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Peter Köhlmann, about mice and <http://youtu.be/sdSiYE7lbQI>:
-----
| My question is if it is programmable by application: in other
| words, can you have the next / prev buttons work to do tabs in
| FireFox and messages in an email program and in the file
| browser, etc.?
That is the most idotic way to program a mouse. But I guess the
typical single-taskers (windows and OSX users) who run only one
program can get away with such idiotic ideas. Linux users who tend
to have several applications on the desktop would not appreciate
if the programming of the different buttons constantly changes
----
On being asked how to get a mouse to work best AS you go from app to app,
Peter assumes this means the person wanting to do this would NOT often go
from app to app.
In other words he gets things exactly OPPOSITE to reality.
Message-ID: morg8k$5sr$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/aBJMis>
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Peter Köhlmann:
-----
Not just that, it can spellcheck in lots of different languages,
even several unkwown to MSOffice It has extremely good Macros /
scripting, not just with BASIC, but with Python and JavaScript as
well
Pages has *none* of that
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WRONG! <http://youtu.be/-J4axC-JgFA>
You cannot use all of those with Pages, but you CAN use JavaScript (and even
make ties to Objective-C).
Message-ID: molfcp$3co$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/RUvUrD>
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Peter Köhlmann:
-----
| Open/LibreOffice is superior to Pages as a pure word processor
| because it does a much better job of correcting spelling
| mistakes ...
Not just that, it can spellcheck in lots of different languages,
even several unkwown to MSOffice
-----
And yet Peter has not shown any of these languages which Pages cannot use.
The reality is, installing the same files for LibreOffice should work for
not just Pages but the OS X system itself!
Message-ID: molfcp$3co$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/RUvUrD>
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Peter Köhlmann:
-----
The apps with "Quit" do *not* exit, they continue to run
in the background
-----
Had he known how to use "top" he would know he was wrong:
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/top.mov>
Message-ID: gq8oo1$u4v$03$1@news.t-online.com
<http://goo.gl/CcTIAO>
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Peter Köhlmann, responding to Sir Slimer:
-----
| Anyone who gets upset that Windows or OS X uses ideas first
| showcased on GNU/Linux don't understand the GPL license at all,
| it seems.
"Ideas" have nothing to do with GPL, you imbecile Snit
-----
<http://stallman.org/photos/china/2000/ms_oss.html>
-----
But the ideas and logic of the GPL cannot be found in the Open
Source Movement. They stem from the deeper goals and values of the
Free Software Movement.
The Free Software Movement was founded in 1984, but its
inspiration comes from the ideals of 1776: freedom, community, and
voluntary cooperation. This is what leads to free enterprise, to
free speech, and to free software.
-----
The "ideas and logic" of the GPL are tied to Stallman's views (as twisted as
they can be) of "freedom, community, and voluntary cooperation." The GPL is
about allowing others to use the ideas found in your IP. To claim ideas have
nothing to do with the GPL shows you do not understand how and why it was
developed.
Message-ID: m525j1$pf3$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/GgFCok>
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<http://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs>
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DVD Playback
DVDs are usually encrypted with CSS. CSS is not a codec. In any
case, here is some information on playback of encrypted DVDs. All
media players use libdvdcss2 in order to playback these encrypted
DVDs. libdvdcss2 is not available in the official Debian
repositories.
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Peter Köhlmann:
-----
|| Not for "normal users", for the most part. Browsing, email,
|| letter-writing, light "office" work, music, videos, etc. all
|| work right out of the box, even with Debian.
| Even commercial dvds??
Yes. That has worked since ages
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Peter Köhlmann claims that DVD playback works out of the box for Debian -
and has for "ages" - even though the reality is it not only does not work,
the Debian Wiki states that that the needed codec is not even available in
their official repositories.
Message-ID: ltb2qd$vbp$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/NM6Kj7>
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<http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332544> Christoph Feck
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The tab widget is provided by the Qt library. Please report this
issue directly to Qt developers via
http://bugreports.qt-project.org/
-----
<http://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-37812>
-----
Priority: P3: Somewhat important
Status: Open Open
Resolution: Unresolved
Fix Version/s: Some future release
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Peter Köhlmann, in reference to that Qt library bug:
-----
That stupid clown Snit Michael Glasser has not the tiniest of
clues who is to address with that "bug" ... It isn't a Qt widget
that incompetent "computer expert" is complaining about, it is a
KDE widget
-----
Peter Köhlmann claims Christoph Feck of the KDE team says things which prove
he is "incompetent" and "has not the tiniest of clues who to address with
that 'bug'".
Message-ID: ljb27t$vfe$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/s0Jr4U>
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Peter Köhlmann, referencing his own idiotic quotes:
-----
And what a surprise: Not a single Msg-ID supplied by that liar
Snit... Because *if* he did supply Msg-IDs, anyone could see that
he has doctored the posts. ... He would be shown as the imbecile
liar he really is
-----
Peter distances himself from his own statements saying a Msg-ID is
needed to prove he is an idiot. Done, with links. What excuse will he
make next? A claim to kill filter me so he can pretend to not see this
list is my guess!
Message-ID: l9af1k$7ov$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/miEeYd>
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Peter Köhlmann:
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Except there are no "700 duplicative Linux distributions"
It is (at most) about a dozen. The rest is special purpose, and
not for the general usage on the desktop.
-----
From <http://distrowatch.com>: "The bewildering choice and the ever
increasing number of Linux distributions can be confusing for those who are
new to Linux."
Message-ID: jq7pqj$ro7$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/7mTTJw>
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Snit:
-----
Excellent screencasting software, similar to ScreenFlow. And
example of something I find key to its use:
<http://youtu.be/To4v70huwAU>. What OSS tool on desktop Linux
has anything even close?
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Peter Köhlmann:
-----
There are several more. Look up "Istanbul" for example or
"Byzanz", or "Cankiri" The list can grow quite a bit, but
these are the most used ones
-----
No program Peter pointed to does the task shown in the video. Peter
never found *any* way on desktop Linux.
Message-ID: jkpf9p$545$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/cLC0Mo>
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Peter Köhlmann:
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In fact, there are at least 3 programs for screencasting which do
either without exception *all* he "needs" or can do it combined
with others
-----
| You have spoken of three programs.
No, I have not. Your incredibly bad reading comprehension is
rearing its ugly head again,
-----
Both of those quotes come from the same day and the same thread and were
stated in that order. In another thread on a previous day Peter gave the
names of three screen recording programs: Istanbul, Byzanz, and Cankiri.
None of those, nor any set of programs, has ever been shown to do what Peter
claims can be done on Linux.
Message-ID: l9scpl$fig$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/Q85TGT>
Message-ID: l9spoa$5qn$2@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/o6vJcb>
Message-ID: jkpf9p$545$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/cLC0Mo>
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Peter Köhlmann:
-----
When I talked about Hangout, that was obviously to anyone with a
brain that it is a mobile app, a class of programs which will be
more and more important
-----
<http://www.google.com/hangouts>
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Android Devices; iPhone, iPad & iPod; Computers; Gmail; Google+
-----
Hmmmm, who is right about Google Hangout: Peter or Google? LOL!
Message-ID: l9n635$aga$2@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/t76po2>
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Peter Köhlmann:
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| For example, if I modified a BSD variant and tried to pass it
| off as "Linux" to people I would be stopped. I know of no
| example of this but I think it is pretty obvious the license
| holders would not allow this.
BSD allows such sheenigans
-----
The BSD license has no power to override trademarks and "allow" this.
Message-ID: l98q2g$nj1$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/zvo4fv>
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Peter Kühlmann:
-----
| I was specifically in reference to "Nobody" and his incorrect
| claim in reference to the Linux code that "Users can do anything
| they want with it." This simply is not true.
It *is* true. Users *can* do anything they want to with it.
-----
Peter did also admit "they have to supply the source too if they want
to distribute the code". He never acknowledged his completely
contradictory claim was wrong.
Message-ID: l96ad6$t5b$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/IDdPqT>
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Peter Köhlmann:
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| [Shortcuts and symbolic links] are similar in usage...
They are not even remotely "similar". Neither in usage nor in
behaviour. If you had /any/ clue whatsoever you would know that.
-----
It is not as if they are the same, but they clearly share many
similarities. Peter does not even know the basics on this topic.
Message-ID: l97mn6$mpb$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/0UHbhj>
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Peter Köhlmann:
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| So when I saw a sign that spoke of a "bibliothèque" I figured it
| had to do with books ("biblio") and could guess with pretty
| strong certainty it was a library. Similarly things like
| "hôpital" meaning "hospital" and "métro" referring to the subway
| system are not hard to figure out.
Which does not help you a tiny little bit if you *hear* the
language ...
-----
When people *read* signs they need not *hear* them! Peter never
acknowledged his error and made accusations of dishonesty.
Message-ID: l92i71$s3j$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/eAm0cC>
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Peter Köhlmann, after being shown these videos:
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/PrintFirstTime.mp4>
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/FirstScan.mov>
Both show an OfficeJet Pro 8600 after being connected to a network and
being used for the first time on a Mac. And it works very, very well.
-----
Scanning [on OS X] is not supported *at* *all* without jumping
through several hoops. This includes hunting down 3 different
software packages (libusb, sane-backend and sane) *and* installing
them. Out of the box no scanning is supported at all. This is in
stark contrast to linux where scanning is supported right from the
start after setting up the printer
The same is true about *all* OfficeJet Pro printers under OSX.
-----
LOL! Yes, after being shown how an OfficeJet Pro works without doing
*anything* extra Peter still makes these completely incorrect claims.
Message-ID: l31oss$9o6$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/600BHt>
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Peter Köhlmann
-----
| When you launch it, the splash screen says 'gimp'
Nope.
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Peter is wrong, and it is trivial to prove:
<http://www.gimp.org/about/splash/stable.html>.
Message-ID: jmmvqr$efo$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/rGhbir>
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Peter Köhlmann, in reference to <http://goo.gl/IjlkV>:
-----
You both show just *again* your incredible cluelessness. That is
*standard* X behaviour, you cretins. That Snot Michael Glasser
knows *nothing* about that is normal, he is the worst "IT teacher"
of all time. He knows nothing usefull about computing.
-----
The video, of course, shows things other than just standard X
behavior. Peter never showed any understanding of this.
Message-Id: 4985cb95$0$32676$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net
<http://goo.gl/0R2qow>
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In reference to: <http://youtu.be/52fwJ5fEWFw>
Peter Köhlmann:
-----
| What's to understand? I can't read, write, copy or
| delete a root-owned folder... but I can rename it.
Actually, no, you can't
And stop lying. I have tested it.
-----
You have to tamper with the permissions to have it different. And
for that reason DFS claims are simply bullshit.
-----
I can't duplicate the "problem" on any machine here.
-----
Since "Lost+found" is not created with the sticky bit at all, it
should not exhibit the behaviour DFS claims. And I can do whatever
I want with it on my systems (on all of them), it certainly does
not behave in any way near that way claimed
-----
Peter never admitted to his error.
Message-ID: ik9hu6$7li$02$1@news.t-online.com
<http://goo.gl/LbeLp9>
Message-ID: ikaflj$1us$02$1@news.t-online.com
<http://goo.gl/PyNcnz>
Message-ID: ike3nf$2u2$02$1@news.t-online.com
<http://goo.gl/iQiekd>
Message-ID: ikbtti$e6r$02$1@news.t-online.com
<http://goo.gl/P91njl>
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Peter Köhlmann, speaking of HTML5:
-----
And browsers on desktop computers have little, if any, need to
adhere to such a "standard" which has no real reason to exist
except to support the idiotic iDevices
-----
Yeah, HTML5 has no other reason to exist. LOL!
Message-ID: ijbl4c$2se$01$1@news.t-online.com
<http://goo.gl/agjo2B>
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<http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4683>
-----
Clicking OK will restart the volume, even if no settings were
changed. Changing this setting does not require the volume to
be reinitialized; data is preserved.
-----
Peter Köhlmann:
-----
So You call having to reformat a drive in order to have that
feature "choice"? Really?
-----
Peter thinks "restarting" a volume reformats it even though it is
specifically stated no reinitialization is done and data is preserved.
Message-ID: jok7e8$e7k$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/RtL82B>
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Peter Köhlmann, in reference to the term "DHCP network", which
is used by Oracle, the University of Illinois, DATAQ, Netgear,
Cisco, and other such groups, <http://goo.gl/C1TpPO>:
-----
No, it is technically bullshit. Nobody wanting to be taken
seriously as being competent would *ever* use such an idiotic
description.
-----
So, to Peter, *none* of those groups should be seen as being competent
when it comes to networking. None of them. LOL!
Message-ID: jr35kp$bif$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/kf6zYv>
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Snit, titling a thread where he made a mistake:
-----
Skype done.... *I* screwed up
-----
Peter Köhlman, referencing the same mistake:
-----
Snot Glasser will claim the most idiotic bullshit to wiggle out
of the fact that he screwed up again
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LOL! Just brilliant of Peter... and he never admitted to his mistake.
Message-ID: k1dtul$vhd$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/j3eShO>
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Peter Köhlmann:
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Play Services do *not* run in the background. The Update services
it provides *are* controllable by the user
-----
<http://developer.android.com/google/play-services>
-----
The Google Play services APK contains the individual Google
services and runs as a background service in the Android OS. You
interact with the background service through the client library
and the service carries out the actions on your behalf.
...
Automatic Updates
Devices running Android 2.2 and newer and that have the Google
Play Store app automatically receive updates to Google Play
services.
-----
Hmmm, who to believe about Google Play... Peter or Google. So hard to
decide!
Message-ID: la6leg$rh1$1@dont-email.me
<http://goo.gl/bg9e6e>
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* OS X / Linux: What is a file? <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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Re: Developers Not Programmers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-03-23 23:38 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-03-24 00:08 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-24 14:04 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-03-23 23:37 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers "Fabian Russell" <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-23 13:36 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-03-23 23:57 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-24 06:45 -0500
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-23 10:26 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-23 22:07 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-24 10:11 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-24 11:32 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-03-24 21:27 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-03-24 21:40 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-03-24 21:50 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-25 21:56 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-25 19:43 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Nobody <nobody@nowhere.net> - 2016-03-25 19:49 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-26 01:05 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-26 14:04 +0000
Re: Get a clue ! Microsoft doesn't use UTF_16 exclusively. Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-26 14:42 +0000
Re: Get a clue ! Microsoft doesn't use UTF_16 exclusively. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-26 12:27 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-26 22:42 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-26 22:25 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-27 00:42 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-26 20:50 -0700
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-27 09:52 +0200
Re: Developers Not Programmers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-27 14:56 -0700
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.dead> - 2016-03-26 17:36 -0500
Re: Developers Not Programmers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-26 20:09 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-26 20:52 -0700
Re: Developers Not Programmers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-03-26 02:42 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-22 07:25 -0500
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-22 12:52 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-22 12:59 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-22 21:03 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-23 10:38 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-03-23 02:09 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-23 05:50 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-03-23 11:33 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-23 07:04 -0500
Re: Developers Not Programmers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-23 08:49 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-23 09:50 -0500
Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-24 21:48 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-25 11:11 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-29 10:17 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-23 10:01 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-23 23:57 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-22 12:58 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-22 20:20 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-22 14:46 -0500
Re: Developers Not Programmers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-22 15:04 -0700
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-22 21:09 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-20 22:42 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-20 19:22 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-21 01:01 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-21 08:18 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-21 15:03 +0100
Re: Developers Not Programmers Nobody <nobody@nowhere.net> - 2016-03-20 21:08 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-20 21:07 -0400
Re: Developers Not Programmers Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-03-22 14:25 +0000
Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-25 14:36 -0400
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