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Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC.

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics
Subject Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC.
Date 2015-11-08 22:15 -0700
Message-ID <D2657A06.632FF%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
References <Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8{3.24P.Seattle.2015}> <pan.2015.11.09.02.20.50@localhost.localdomain> <D2655AEC.632E1%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <pan.2015.11.09.04.54.38@localhost.localdomain>

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On 11/8/15, 9:56 PM, in article
pan.2015.11.09.04.54.38@localhost.localdomain, "Fabian Russell"
<root@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 20:02:52 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>> 
>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, whatever) save
>> it and email a PDF version where you add notes to it.
> 
> The whole thing can be scripted.
> 
> Use curl or wget to retrieve and PDF command line tools to convert
> and finally a command line email client to send.
> 
> Easy as pizza pie.
> 
> There are several PDF tools and dozens of email clients available.

This is great if you want to do ONE item... but then, of course, the effort
to do so is FAR greater than to do it manually. What I show allows me to do
it with anything I can print (though, of course, some things lend themselves
to this more than others). "Nobody" suggested he would sent it as text.
Well, I can do that very easily as well: <https://youtu.be/hAcHF_IO34I>.
Notice how OS X even makes an intelligent guess as to what text I might want
- and it is rarely wrong (which does not mean never!)

Owl, on seeing this, did come back with a different task: to go to
allrecipes.com and save them all as PDFs. Why one would want to do this I am
not sure, but it could be modified to, say, download all chocolate chop
recipes or something and, hey, it was a fun task so I took it on. Made a
number of videos on it and shall not bore you with a ton of them, but here
are a couple where I show a couple versions of the methods to do so.

<https://youtu.be/IfZIa6PqRFo>
<https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>

My solution was faster than anything Owl came up with (though my 'net speed
is also faster and that makes a difference!), but the PDFs I generated ALSO
allows me to select the text as text and look up terms, do word counts, do
Google searches, etc. All the "normal" stuff I can do with pretty much any
text. 

>> * Make a video, as Owl and I have been, but with cursor replacement /
>> resizing (post production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
>> highlighting.
> 
> Again, scripting with ffmpeg and associated tools.

Unlikely. You would have to have a file format which "knows" where the
cursor is, would have to "know" where windows are located, etc. And then for
the highlighting it would be truly "arbitrary" - not tied to actual useful
content. I mean arbitrary to the computer but meaningful for the user
(otherwise what is the point!)

> Because I am not well versed in video, I can't be too specific.  Some
> options might not be possible, but that's just a guess.
> 
> The script, either bash or perl, is an extremely powerful and flexible
> method.

OS X has those, too, but it also has other scripting technologies (I show
some in the above videos on the recipes).

>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the HTML
>> validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to the archive
>> page,
>> 
> 
> I'd need to study this a bit, but an initial assessment would be curl/wget
> in conjunction with perl HTML modules (and perl scripting).
> 
> CPAN (www,cpan.org) is there for the taking.

Might work. I did it with a now ancient version of Filemaker Pro. It makes
it very, very easy but is not a cheap program.

> Linux does not provide "turnkey" solutions.  But it has fundamental tools.
> Just add your intelligence and creativity and anything becomes possible.

OS X has those same UNIX tools (it is, after all, an actual UNIX) but *also*
has a lot more. If you are looking at just the command line tools, though,
Linux is likely the better choice: it is cheaper, often faster, and
generally comes with a wider suite of command line tools (you can get them
for OS X, but they are there out-of-the-box on Linux).



-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 02:20 +0000
  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 18:55 -0800
  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 20:02 -0700
    Circus Alert.. Don't take the bait Fabian Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 22:11 -0500
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 04:22 +0000
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 21:50 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 05:13 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 22:38 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 10:45 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-16 09:25 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-16 19:09 +0100
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-16 18:59 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-11-09 04:38 -0800
      Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-08 21:30 -0800
        Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 06:18 +0000
          Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 12:43 +0000
          Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 12:09 -0700
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 11:28 -0800
          Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:03 -0700
          Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-09 20:26 +0000
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:27 -0700
          Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-09 15:39 -0500
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 15:45 -0500
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-09 21:53 +0100
              Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 16:01 -0500
              Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 17:14 -0500
                Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 15:18 -0700
                Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 17:48 -0500
                Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-10 01:58 +0100
              Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:28 -0700
                Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-10 02:30 +0100
                Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:24 -0700
                Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-10 22:50 +0000
        Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 06:31 +0000
          Fabian Russell is disabled. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-08 23:12 -0800
          Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:03 -0700
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 03:12 -0500
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:04 -0700
      Rot in Hell, Russell.  There Moi fixed your 1st post. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 02:31 -0800
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 12:39 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 06:47 -0800
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 15:35 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 07:51 -0800
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 16:31 +0000
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 11:32 -0800
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:01 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 20:04 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 15:18 -0500
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 21:01 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 16:08 -0500
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:35 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 13:54 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 20:54 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 21:13 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 17:17 -0500
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-09 23:24 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 17:36 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:37 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:32 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 13:04 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:30 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 18:44 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 03:58 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:38 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 08:18 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 15:15 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 10:49 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 07:54 -0800
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 11:21 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 08:46 -0800
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:27 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:25 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 12:45 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 22:30 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 17:37 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 18:04 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 01:30 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 18:59 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 03:15 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-11 07:22 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 10:20 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 21:32 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 14:51 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:13 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 23:17 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:28 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:38 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:40 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-12 23:24 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 00:33 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 10:57 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-13 12:21 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 12:26 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-13 14:57 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 17:04 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-13 07:25 -0600
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 11:48 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 17:09 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 20:39 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 15:43 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 21:30 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-16 09:27 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 22:18 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-16 09:29 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:39 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 10:55 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:26 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:26 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:42 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 16:06 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 23:25 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-12 23:36 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:46 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 00:35 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:54 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:53 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 15:36 -0800
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 17:40 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:37 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 00:40 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 18:01 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 01:29 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 18:47 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:29 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 19:34 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 21:45 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 19:05 -0800
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 21:03 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:26 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 19:35 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:51 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 22:00 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 03:36 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 22:41 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 19:46 -0800
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 20:00 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 03:18 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 01:49 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 10:27 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 11:15 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-13 11:30 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 11:32 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 08:45 -0800
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 12:12 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:25 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 12:27 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:41 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 12:40 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:47 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 12:52 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:06 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 10:25 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 10:28 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 11:52 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:02 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 12:15 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 08:24 -0800
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 12:52 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 21:44 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 10:24 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-14 01:01 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 20:08 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 20:17 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 02:07 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-09 21:48 +0100
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 14:23 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 21:25 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 14:37 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:41 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 21:07 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:05 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:48 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 08:20 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 15:18 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:29 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:28 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 12:46 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:36 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 18:32 -0500
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:39 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 18:46 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:09 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:47 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 08:21 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 14:48 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 10:34 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 18:27 +0100
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:31 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 20:51 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 21:21 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 21:49 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 15:12 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:48 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:14 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:47 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:33 -0700
            GhostScipt works well on Windows. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-09 16:09 -0800
              Re: GhostScipt works well on Windows. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 19:54 -0500
                Re: GhostScipt works well on Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:49 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-11-10 03:23 -0800
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-11 09:42 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 13:29 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-11 13:08 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 16:58 -0500
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:43 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:18 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:46 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:49 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:48 -0700
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 04:56 +0000
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 22:15 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 05:27 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 22:43 -0700
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-11-09 04:35 -0800
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 06:46 -0800
  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 10:14 +0000
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 18:02 +0000
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 12:15 -0700
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:06 -0700
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 14:13 -0500
  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-09 06:13 -0500
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 12:32 +0000
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 11:38 -0500
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-09 07:51 -0600
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-09 09:48 -0500
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-09 10:03 -0500
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 18:05 +0000
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-09 13:19 -0500
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 14:24 -0500
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:08 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 16:35 -0500
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 13:52 -0500
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 12:17 -0700
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:07 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-09 21:46 +0100
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 14:26 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:52 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-10 02:54 +0100
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:51 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 10:27 +0100
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 06:52 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 13:21 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 07:39 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:55 -0700
                Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-10 07:12 -0600
                Re: Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-10 08:22 -0500
                Re: Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:58 -0700
                Re: Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-11 09:27 -0600
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:58 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-10 22:01 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 23:15 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:38 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 00:45 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-11 14:15 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 18:10 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 17:33 -0800
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 21:58 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 23:15 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:19 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:30 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 00:37 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 18:00 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 01:24 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 18:46 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:28 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 19:34 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-13 10:27 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 02:41 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 09:44 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:23 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 11:06 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 17:27 -0800
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:24 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 15:33 -0800
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 10:05 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-11 11:20 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 13:27 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 10:36 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 22:58 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:15 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-11 06:15 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:37 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 09:31 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:55 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:54 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-11 20:05 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 10:03 +0100
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 10:18 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 11:40 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 11:40 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 21:14 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:53 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-10 18:00 -0500
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:39 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-11 18:00 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-11 20:02 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 06:46 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 11:41 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-12 09:22 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 11:43 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-12 18:07 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-13 07:35 -0600
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:58 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:57 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-14 07:30 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-14 12:18 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-14 22:09 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-14 20:12 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-15 03:31 +0000
                To dvus. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 11:40 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-15 10:46 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 11:38 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-16 14:47 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-16 20:26 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-16 14:43 -0600
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-16 14:19 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 15:39 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 15:38 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 15:37 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-17 05:30 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-17 14:57 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-17 20:04 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-17 19:26 -0700
  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 08:14 -0500
  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-11-09 06:52 -0800
  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Bob Loblaw <BL@LinuxProfessionals.com> - 2015-11-15 11:05 -0500
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 11:41 -0700

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