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Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10
Date 2015-09-21 12:34 -0700
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On 9/21/15, 12:09 PM, in article
7761f8ba-2702-4d4f-b5ab-460c7df32ed8@googlegroups.com, "cc"
<scatnubbs@hotmail.com> wrote:

... 
>> I have shown you both Tablet and Desktop modes and how the UI changes in
>> those modes. 
> 
> Yes. A UI can change. Buttons become disabled depending on the context.

And yet they do not show themselves to be disabled - they simply do not
work. They are not grayed out, for example.

That is a flaw in the UI.

> Icons and layout change to take advantage of space when switching from
> portrait to landscape. Those changes are not a different UI.

Again: NOT interested in your semantic games.

The fact is things change a lot. The same UI element does different things.
For example, as I showed, the Start Button does different things... with the
functionality in the Desktop mode being spread between different icons in
Tablet mode.

I also noted the icons that do not even work (such as the "Restore Down"
button). Just broken... not grayed out or anything else to indicate they do
not work.

You said this was much like iOS. When asked for example of this you never
came up with any. In other words: you pretended to be knowledgeable about
things you were not.

...
>> Maybe you mean they care about some or even
>> most of the software they ship, but you have made it clear you feel they do
>> not care about ALL the software
> 
> I made it clear they do not care about Notepad, and that was it.

So they care about SOME, maybe even MOST, of the commonly used software they
ship with Windows 10 but not all. OK. Why do you play games and no just say
what you think?

>> they ship with Windows 10 - even software
>> which has been common to Windows for years and is well known and fairly
>> often used.
> 
> Notepad is not often used. And it has not been updated in years.

Below I prove otherwise.

>> Doing a little research, here is a story on the top 10 requested features of
>> Windows 10: 
>> <http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/17/6993471/windows-10-features-top-requests
>> or <http://bit.ly/1MEQ9Kt>
>>     -----
>>     Provide a better Notepad application
>>     -----
> 
> Yes, someone wants a better notepad application because it is ancient
> and hasn't been updated.

If it is software that nobody cares about why is it in a top 10 request
list?

>> Some even say it is among the most used application in the operating
>> systems: <http://goo.gl/QBjXAL> [http://www.windows10update.com]
>>     -----
>>     Now this is one Windows 10 user request one can get behind! Ask
>>     the right person and the default Notepad program in Windows is the
>>     most used application in the operating system.
>> 
>>     Along with other default programs, of course, like the good old
>>     Calculator and jolly old Paint.
>> 
>>     However, while the former two applications have seen updates in
>>     previous versions of the operating system, Notepad has turned
>>     antique with barely anything new added to the program. All that
>>     could change by the time Windows 10 makes its debut.
>>     -----
> 
> "Ask the right person" is a copout. If notepad was hugely popular, it
> would have been updated to handle a decent sized file by now. Or updated
> at all. It's still using MFC and WinAPI.

You claim it is not used often but offer NO support of this. I show
otherwise and you ignore it.

>> Even Microsoft speaks of it! They talked of wanting to update Notepad and
>> bring it to their store: <http://wp.me/p1obas-a02>
>>     -----
>>     Now, Microsoft wants to bring more stock apps to the Windows
>>     Store. In an interview with CNN Money, Microsoftąs Terry Myerson ­
>>     the companyąs Executive Vice President of the Windows and Devices
>>     Group stated that the company is hoping to bring Notepad to the
>>     Windows Store.
>> 
>>     Hereąs Terryąs statement:
>> 
>>     "Even applications like Notepad ‹ I hope thatąs in the store soon.
>>     So weąll start getting ratings and reviews on Notepad. Itąs always
>>     humbling."
>>     -----
>> 
>> And you say they do not care about it. LOL!
> 
> Is it in the store? No. Has it been updated? No.

Not in contention. Please stop moving goal posts.

> Is it still using old and unsupported apis? Yes. Has it been mentioned in
> passing by Microsoft? Yes. Putting the same, MFC version of the app in the
> store to see some ratings is not caring about it. Let me know when it's
> actually in the store and has been updated.

I showed you proof you were wrong and you moved goal posts. OK.

> You've been so incompetent that now you're reduced to trying to argue
> Microsoft cares about notepad. You can't even talk about the topic anymore
> because you don't have a leg to stand on.

So now you say Microsoft's Executive Vice President is lying when he talks
about Notepad and you know better.

Whatever. You are doing your normal trolling nonsense of pretending to be
knowledgeable about things you are completely clueless about.

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Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-16 17:58 -0700
  Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 05:03 -0700
    Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-17 10:36 -0700
      Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 10:42 -0700
        Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-17 10:58 -0700
        Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-24 12:34 -0700
      Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 10:59 -0700
        Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-17 11:12 -0700
          Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 11:18 -0700
            Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 11:23 -0700
              Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-17 11:45 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 12:06 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-17 12:18 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 12:28 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-17 13:13 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 05:03 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-18 07:55 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 08:49 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-18 08:57 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-18 16:06 +0000
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 09:19 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-18 10:02 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-18 19:10 +0200
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-18 10:27 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-18 19:49 +0200
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-18 11:31 -0700
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                Re: Snit has significant issues Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-18 15:40 -0700
                Re: Snit has significant issues Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-19 00:56 +0200
                Re: Snit has significant issues Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-18 16:12 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 10:19 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 10:22 -0700
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                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-18 11:22 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 11:48 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-18 12:01 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 12:21 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-18 13:04 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-21 05:14 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-21 10:14 -0700
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                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-21 12:12 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-21 12:35 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-22 10:55 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 11:10 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-21 12:34 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-22 10:50 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 11:03 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-22 21:21 +0000
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 14:59 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 15:22 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-22 23:38 +0000
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 17:00 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-23 01:50 +0000
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 19:02 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-23 14:43 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-22 22:18 -0500
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-23 03:35 +0000
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 20:56 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-23 05:13 +0000
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 22:20 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-23 05:35 +0000
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 22:47 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-23 05:54 +0000
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 23:04 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-23 06:51 +0000
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 scooz <scooz@myemailisspamfree.net> - 2015-09-23 09:00 -0400
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 09:20 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-23 18:34 +0200
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 09:51 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 09:19 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-23 17:30 +0000
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 10:44 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-23 18:06 +0000
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 11:27 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-23 18:38 +0000
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 11:47 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:07 +0000
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 12:16 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-23 14:43 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-10-23 22:13 +0000
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-23 15:29 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-24 00:45 +0200
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-23 18:50 -0400
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-24 10:54 -0500
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-24 12:21 -0400
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-24 09:27 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-24 17:32 -0500
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-24 16:58 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-25 10:11 -0400
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-25 09:26 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-25 12:35 -0400
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-25 12:08 -0500
                "Nobody" looking for perky balls? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-25 10:37 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-26 15:03 -0500
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 13:12 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-27 05:06 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-27 08:44 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-27 09:04 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-27 11:25 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-27 12:57 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-10-26 22:33 +0000
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-26 05:06 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 13:04 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-25 10:07 -0400
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-26 14:55 -0500
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 13:14 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-26 18:50 -0400
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-26 21:38 -0500
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-27 07:59 -0400
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-27 16:13 -0600
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-26 14:58 -0500
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 13:13 -0700
                More FUD. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-26 17:11 -0600
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-26 20:14 -0400
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-26 20:57 -0400
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-26 21:42 -0500
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 20:33 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 19:14 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-30 23:15 -0400
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-24 16:33 +0000
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-10-24 19:12 +0100
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-25 11:50 -0500
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-23 19:28 -0400
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-23 20:56 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-10-23 22:53 +0000
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                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-10-24 18:15 +0000
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                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 08:40 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-26 10:12 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-26 13:21 -0400
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-26 11:01 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-23 07:32 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-23 18:26 +0200
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 09:39 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-23 10:07 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 10:37 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-23 10:59 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 11:28 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-23 11:38 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-23 18:45 +0000
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 11:48 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2015-09-24 15:54 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-23 11:48 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 11:55 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-23 12:02 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 12:13 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 11:53 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-23 12:00 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 12:13 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 09:45 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-22 21:15 -0500
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 19:23 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 19:30 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-23 04:53 +0200
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-23 05:03 +0200
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-23 03:31 +0000
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-23 05:46 +0200
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-23 04:50 +0000
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 09:58 -0400
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 09:27 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 12:36 -0400
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 09:53 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-23 10:12 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 10:35 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-23 11:03 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 11:28 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-23 11:39 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 11:50 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-23 11:54 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 12:03 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-23 12:09 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 12:16 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-23 12:23 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 12:30 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-24 04:54 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-24 09:20 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-24 09:32 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-24 09:39 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-24 11:46 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-24 12:07 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-24 12:28 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-24 13:00 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-25 04:39 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 08:40 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2015-09-24 11:06 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-24 12:47 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-24 12:59 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-24 15:45 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 09:33 -0400
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 08:43 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-25 10:02 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 10:18 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2015-09-24 15:53 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-23 12:03 -0600
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 11:29 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-22 10:58 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 11:09 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-22 11:38 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 12:06 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-22 12:59 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 13:17 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-23 07:31 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 09:11 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 11:57 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-18 13:05 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-21 05:20 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-21 10:04 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-21 20:45 +0200
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-21 11:48 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-21 21:03 +0200
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-21 12:17 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-21 22:39 +0200
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-21 13:42 -0700
                Not just thing has significant issues... look at ccretin chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-21 14:14 -0500
                Re: Not just thing has significant issues... look at ccretin Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-21 12:35 -0700
                Turdv has never been credbile.  You're a Troll, Turdv. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-21 14:54 -0600
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-21 12:01 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-21 12:16 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-18 09:57 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-18 19:02 +0200
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-18 10:28 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-21 16:47 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-22 09:42 +0200
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 06:29 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-22 20:37 +0200
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 scooz <scooz@myemailisspamfree.net> - 2015-09-18 13:38 -0400
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-18 11:15 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-24 12:50 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-09-17 14:47 -0500
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-17 13:13 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 20:32 +0000
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-17 13:36 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 20:38 +0000
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-17 14:27 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 scooz <scooz@myemailisspamfree.net> - 2015-09-17 18:54 -0400
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-17 16:06 -0700
            Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-17 11:34 -0700
              Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 11:41 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-17 11:46 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 12:09 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-17 12:18 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-24 12:47 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-24 12:46 -0700
            Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-24 12:40 -0700
        Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-24 12:40 -0700
    Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-24 12:19 -0700
      Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-24 12:33 -0700
        Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-24 12:43 -0700
          Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-24 12:51 -0700
            Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-24 13:06 -0700
              Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-25 04:47 -0700
                Re: Not just Linux has significant UI issues... a first look at Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 08:40 -0700

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