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Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

From Lucas Castro <lucas@gnuabordo.com.br>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]
Date 2021-06-29 21:10 +0200
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Em 29 de junho de 2021 15:58:49 BRT, "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> escreveu:
>On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> > On 2021-06-29 1:27 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 04:33:50PM +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater
>wrote:
>> > >> ssh -Y is similar to ssh -X but does some authentication - yuu
>don't have
>> > >> to use xhost+ or similar.
>> > > 
>> > > You don't use xhost with ssh -X, either.  At least, not
>explicitly.
>> > > ssh takes care of that for you.
>> > > 
>> > > In fact, on Debian, ssh -X and ssh -Y do exactly the same thing,
>due
>> > > to changes that Debian made.  This is documented in the ssh(1)
>man page.
>> > > 
>> > > If you've been using "xhost +" together with "ssh -X", you've
>been doing
>> > > it wrong (and *dramatically* destroying all your network
>security) all
>> > > along.
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:05:18PM -0400, Polyna-Maude
>Racicot-Summerside wrote:
>> > What I stated was pretty simple :
>> 
>> That was the fucking point.
>> 
>
>Greg: If it helps, I get that - and have always got it. I hadn't
>appreciated
>that - for Debian - ssh -X and ssh -Y are essentially identical. Thanks
>for the pointer.
>
>Sorry to have created any confusion.
>
>It's _nearly_ July 1st. Tomorrow sometime I'll be getting round to
>reposting
>the debian-user mailing list FAQ. Please, no rude words, especially the
>f-ing
>word? As frustrating as any of us can be, it doesn't add merit to
>argument.
>Email is already hard enugh to understand and appreciate: there are
>folk
>here where English is a non-native language and swear words don't help
>carry meaning.
>
>
>All the very best to you both - and everybody reading and using this
>list
>and it's archives.
>
>Andy Cater
>
>> 
>> Now, if you want to advocate that people should use xhost + because
>> that's how you learned things back in the early 1990s, that's your
>right,
>> but I hope you will at least point out how INCREDIBLY INSECURE this
>is,
>> and that it should only be done on an isolated private network, and
>only
>> for educational purposes, never for actual work.
>> 
>> Even then, you wouldn't combine it with ssh -X.  xhost + and manually
>> overriding DISPLAY bypasses the ssh encryption layer entirely.  It
>also
>> involves starting the X server with a non-default option, so it's
>quite
>> a lot more work than using ssh -X.  Which is good.  We wouldn't want
>the
>> horribly broken way to be the easy way.
>> 

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