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Re: Mailing list behaviour, words and that [was: Re: X server ...]

From Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Mailing list behaviour, words and that [was: Re: X server ...]
Date 2021-06-30 15:00 +0200
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On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 02:45:57PM +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 01:31:37PM +0100, mick crane wrote:
> > On 2021-06-30 10:59, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > >On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > >
> > >[...]
> > >
> > >>DO NOT USE xhost + WITH ssh -X OR ssh -Y
> > >>
> > >>That was the fucking point.
> > >
> > >Calm down. I understand security is close to your heart,
> > >but there's no need to be so vitriolic and borderline
> > >insulting about it.
> > >
> > >There are nicer ways to drive the point home that, nowadays,
> > >"xhost +" isn't a good idea, generally.
> > 
> > "f" word is very ancient English word which gives added emphasis
> > especially when unexpected
> > Doesn't bother me but as you say is inappropriate on mailing list
> > and I'm sure it's a one-off.
> 
> See my other post. Personally, I don't feel hurt by it. Actually, I think
> it's part of the language [1], so...
> 
> I'm more worried by a generally aggressive tone, especially if it is
> towards people.
> 
> That said, I do take into account that some people may be hurt by some
> words, so I try to not use them in a context where they might do harm.
> It is irrelevant how old the word is, what its etymology is and all
> that. Just the effect counts in the current context.
> 
> In private, and when I /know/ that my interlocutors are fine with it,
> I apply less restraints (but try to be prepared for cases where my
> "knowledge" turns out to be wrong: I have to rely on others to help
> me on that, external POV and all of this).
> 
> Cheers
> 
> [1] I'm somewhat of a language nerd. I do love all words!
> 
I too am a language nerd.  It is terribly fascinating how a particular
word, regardless of things like history and etymology can come to be
considered a "bad word" all on its own in any context.  Other words are
"bad" only when used in a particular way.  Then there is the idea that
offensive or distasteful ideas, thoughts, and such can be expressed by
euphemism and that is in a way better (in the minds of most people) than
using the "bad words" directly.  It sort of makes me wish I had taken up
linguistics as a career.

Regards,

-Roberto


-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez

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