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On 2021-05-31 at 11:38, Marco Möller wrote:

> On 31.05.21 16:01, Stefan Monnier wrote:

[that tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:]

>>> Thanks, but I'll prefer a decentralised, end-to-end encryptable,
>>> well established messaging infrastructure with a rich choice of
>>> user and transfer agents. It's called e-mail.
>> 
>> Actually, matrix.org aims to be that as well.  It probably doesn't
>> yet qualify for "rich choice" (e.g. there is a matrix-client.el but
>> it doesn't support encryption yet), but other than that, it's
>> pretty much there.
> 
> The project currently lists many more clients
> (https://matrix.org/clients/), and here
> (https://matrix.org/clients-matrix/) 12 clients are marked to provide
> E2E encryption.

A relatively quick search finds a few clients in the Debian repository:
nheko, quaternion, matrix-mirage, weechat-matrix, spectral. There's also
pantalaimon, described as an 'E2EE-aware proxy daemon for matrix
clients', and libqmatrixclient*, a 'Qt5 library to write cross-platform
clients for Matrix' (which is apparently used by quaternion).

Of those, matrix-mirage specifically notes end-to-end encryption
support, and weechat-matrix marks it as experimental; the others don't
seem to mention it one way or the other, at least not in the package
description.

nheko, quaternion, and pantalaimon are all in both stable and testing;
the others are currently in testing but not stable.

I haven't previously looked closely at Matrix, but I'm going to have to
check some of these out and see what I think.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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