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Re: thunderbird

From Weaver <weaver@riseup.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: thunderbird
Date 2021-06-01 10:30 +0200
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On 01-06-2021 18:10, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Lu, 31 mai 21, 08:48:48, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
>> On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 08:55:32PM +0000, ghe2001 wrote:
>> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> > Hash: SHA256
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> > On Sunday, May 30, 2021 2:24 PM, Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > >... (snip)
>> >
>> > Look into ProtonMail.  Web based,
>>                          ^^^^^^^^^
>> This would disqualify it for me, 100%. AFAIK, the OP was
>> asking for a MUA anyway, not for a web service.
> 
> Yes, it's off-topic for this thread, but...
>  
>> > ... slow sometimes (they're in Switzerland), but PGP encryption if possible,
>>
>>
>> How does "web based" and PGP go together, anyway? Web based
>> means mail handling (and thus encryption/signing) is done
>> on other people's computers.
>>
>> This means your private keys are on other people's computers.
> 
> Yes.
> 
>> > ...and free.  Works, too.
>>
>> As in free beer or as in free speech?
> 
> The service is free as in beer for the basic limited account.

If we're looking at this sort of thing, you might like to take a look at
tutanota, also.

https://tutanota.com/

Cheers!

Harry.
> 
> They are publishing most (all?) their software under free licenses, 
> including the JavaScript handling the encryption part in the web 
> interface.
> 
>> No. Just... no.
> 
> Their target audience is different.
> 
> As far as I can tell it's the most usable out-of-the box encrypted email 
> (including at rest) I know of, if one is willing to trust them not to 
> brute-force your GPG key passphrase.
> 
> Mails between ProtonMail subscribers are encrypted by default, from 
> browser to browser (or the IMAP gateway for paid subscriptions).
> 
> For non-subscribers there is the option to encrypt messages with a 
> password. Instead of the full message the other party receives a link to 
> a webinterface they can use to read and reply to the message.
> 
> Additionally, there are no ads, unless you count the occasional (once 
> per month?) message with latest updates (including new functionality, 
> like the calendar) and the "Upgrade to a paid account" buttons in the 
> webinterface.
> 
> For me it is definitely an upgrade to Gmail for stuff I want to keep 
> away from Google and it gives me the option to communicate reasonably 
> secure with non-technical users.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Andrei

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  Re: thunderbird Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-05-30 21:50 +0200
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      Re: thunderbird James Wallen <jpwallen@comcast.net> - 2021-05-30 23:50 +0200
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          Re: thunderbird The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-31 12:00 +0200
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            Re: thunderbird James Wallen <jpwallen@comcast.net> - 2021-05-31 17:30 +0200
          Re: thunderbird rust <rustbuckett@pm.me> - 2021-05-31 14:00 +0200
    Re: thunderbird <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-30 23:00 +0200
  Re: thunderbird Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-05-30 22:10 +0200
    Re: thunderbird Doug McGarrett <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2021-05-30 22:50 +0200
      Re: thunderbird Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-05-30 23:00 +0200
        Re: thunderbird Charlie <taoquester@gmail.com> - 2021-05-31 01:00 +0200
      Re: thunderbird Frank McCormick <debianlist@videotron.ca> - 2021-05-31 01:20 +0200
  Re: thunderbird Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2021-05-30 22:30 +0200
    Re: thunderbird ghe2001 <ghe2001@protonmail.com> - 2021-05-30 23:00 +0200
      Re: thunderbird <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-31 08:50 +0200
        Re: thunderbird Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2021-05-31 10:40 +0200
          Re: thunderbird <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-31 11:20 +0200
            Re: thunderbird Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-05-31 16:10 +0200
              Re: thunderbird Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2021-05-31 17:40 +0200
                Matrix (was Re: thunderbird) The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-31 18:00 +0200
                Re: thunderbird <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-31 18:00 +0200
                Re: thunderbird Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-05-31 19:00 +0200
                Re: thunderbird Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-06-01 09:50 +0200
        Re: thunderbird rust <rustbuckett@pm.me> - 2021-05-31 14:10 +0200
        Re: thunderbird Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-06-01 10:20 +0200
          Re: thunderbird Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-06-01 10:30 +0200
    Re: thunderbird Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2021-05-30 23:10 +0200
    Re: thunderbird Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2021-05-30 23:30 +0200
  Re: thunderbird Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2021-05-31 01:20 +0200
    Re: thunderbird Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2021-05-31 10:00 +0200
  Re: thunderbird rust <rustbuckett@pm.me> - 2021-05-31 02:30 +0200
  Re: thunderbird Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2021-05-31 03:10 +0200

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