Re: Hard to understand, being clear [ was Re: MDs & Dentists]

From	Gunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Hard to understand, being clear [ was Re: MDs & Dentists]
Date	2021-08-02 15:40 +0200
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My exMac looks like old Mac, but 1/2 of software/harddisk is Debian i386
32b Buster, another
1/2 of HD (Toshiba MK1655GS ssd 160gb, Intel, 3gb memory) is Linux Mint 32b
Ubuntu-based.
Wikipedia said it's the first Mac (Snow Leopard)to run on 64bit.
You asked what changed it from being a Macbook to an exmac.
Letting Linux Debian 10.9 take over 100% of 160gb software. It is now
impossible(?) to go back to Macbook 2.1 osx 10.6.8 Snow Leopard. The
hardware is Mac, which is the keyboard & screen.
Debian (& Mac) 'said' dvd player didn't work, neither the external dvd
player. Mint didn't 'complain'. The Apple symbol appears on screen starting
& a fanfare tune. Mac or not: Depends how you define it, external,
internal, both.
I didn't much think of it until now.
For me it's no longer a Mac. Because for me the main use of a computer is
the desktop look, the programs, the distribution. It's not a car, to get me
around. It's to get my brainwork done; it's main value is on the inside.
See?
BR,
Geg

BR,
Geg

On Sun, 1 Aug 2021, 23:33 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside, <
debian@polynamaude.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> Here's some example of hard to understand posts...
> Maybe I ain't the only one following the thread, that tried to help
> Gunnar but got lost in the linguistics problems.
>
> On 2021-08-01 9:39 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> > Dual boot'ed,
> > I forgot to tell you.
> > Thus the sucker(?) can sit 'alone' in a dysfunctional 1/2 of my PC,
> > maybe 'he' never returns anyway.
> *dysfunction 1/2 of your PC ?*
>
> Okay this could be related to the first sentence about dual booting.
> So you got one of the two system not working.
>
> Which one ?
> You know, how are we supposed to know.
>
> > After built up all in 1 'secret' 1/2, I plan to re-partition the 1t
> *all in 1 'secret' 1/2 ?*
>
> What is this supposed to mean
>
> > half, to clean out 'all' dysfunctions, in a Linux, & Linux Debian
> *clean out all dysfunction in a Linux & Linux Debian*
>
> So you have two Debian system ?
>
> > 'answer' to Factory Reset, a learning way, which FReset really isn't, or
> > little.
> *'answer' to Factory Reset* ?
>
> Where you answered what ?
>
> FReset ? Is it a typo for Reset or a way for you to say Factory Reset ?
>
> Trying to save a few letter won't help your case.
>
> Unless you are using a 300 baud modem, maybe you should let go the space
> saving acronym and use plain English.
>
> I won't go back to the list of messages...
>
> But here's one that is pretty much the top of line when we consider hard
> to understand.
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/07/msg01033.html
>
> Thx for the request to help in this project even not knowing code. I'll
> firstly try it on my 14 yr old Debian Buster ex-macbook. Nice way to
> include more people &, probably, improve+stabilize the distro much faster.
> Learning Linux Debian is a nice hobby(feels more like a lifestyle)
>
> --
>
> *A ex-Macbook ? what make it change from a MacBook to a none-Macbook ?*
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/07/msg01219.html
>
> >> On 2021-07-28 3:16 p.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> >>> It is a Toshiba 160 gb hd in a 14 years old Macbook i386 ❤️/x86 32 b
> >>> booting from Bios not uefi. I'll give full report in 1-2 weeks, after
> >>> put in VM in it, faster internet to it to handle VM.
> >>> And built websites with it.
> >>> Geg
>
> ....
>
> > One might assume from
> >
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/07/msg01033.html
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/07/msg01167.html
> >
> > that these deal with the same machine, and that Gunnar hasn't quite
> > mastered the technique of threading, but is keen to add to the
> > list of tested hardware.
> >
> One doesn't always read all the messages and only uses the subject to
> get a idea.
>
> Now is he saying his machine can WORK with Debian or is this related to
> the message I had with him earlier about a problem with his system NOT
> WORKING and CRASHING on update, requiring CLEAN REINSTALL.
>
> And this is the part that would be nice to know...
>
> ----
>
> *And we still don't know !*
>
> > BR,
> > Geg.
> >
> > On Wed, 21 Jul 2021, 18:59 Dan Ritter, <dsr@randomstring.org
> > <mailto:dsr@randomstring.org>> wrote:
> >
> >     Reco wrote:
> >     > On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 10:51:40AM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> >     > Numbers show that I was incorrect. Let's call it "unlikely"
> instead of
> >     > "rare". Let the popcon graphs speak for themselves:
> >     >
> >     > https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=firefox-esr
> >     <https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=firefox-esr>
> >     > vs
> >     > https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=openjdk-11
> >     <https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=openjdk-11>
> >
> >     Standard reminder: popcon vastly over-represents
> >     individually-owned laptops and desktops over servers and
> >     corporately-owned anything.
> >
> >     In this case, individuals are sometimes infected with ransomware
> >     by happenstance, but corporates are actually targets.
> >
> >     > It won't by itself, of course. One sure way to beat ransomware is
> to
> >     > take immutable backups (i.e. unmodifiable by host during and after
> the
> >     > backup is taken), and as recent history shows us - ransomware
> victims
> >     > apparently do not use this approach.
> >
> >     Yes indeed.
> >
> >     -dsr-
> >
>
> --
> Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
> -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development
>
>

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Re: MDs & Dentists Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@surfnaked.ca> - 2021-07-14 17:40 +0200
  Re: MDs & Dentists Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2021-07-14 20:30 +0200
    Re: MDs & Dentists John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-07-14 21:30 +0200
      Re: MDs & Dentists Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-15 00:30 +0200
    Re: MDs & Dentists ellanios82 <ellanios82@gmail.com> - 2021-07-14 21:50 +0200
      Re: MDs & Dentists Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-07-14 22:00 +0200
        Re: MDs & Dentists Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-15 00:40 +0200
          Re: MDs & Dentists Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-07-15 01:00 +0200
            Re: MDs & Dentists Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-15 01:40 +0200
            Re: MDs & Dentists Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-07-15 02:40 +0200
              Re: MDs & Dentists Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-07-15 03:20 +0200
              Re: MDs & Dentists Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-15 04:00 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-07-15 04:00 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-15 04:10 +0200
      Re: MDs & Dentists Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-15 00:30 +0200
        Re: MDs & Dentists jeremy ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2021-07-15 01:10 +0200
          Re: MDs & Dentists jeremy ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2021-07-15 02:30 +0200
            Re: MDs & Dentists Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-15 04:00 +0200
          Re: MDs & Dentists Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-07-15 03:50 +0200
            Re: MDs & Dentists Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-07-15 04:00 +0200
          Re: MDs & Dentists ellanios82 <ellanios82@gmail.com> - 2021-07-15 09:50 +0200
            Re: MDs & Dentists Jeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2021-07-15 10:10 +0200
            Re: MDs & Dentists Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-07-15 10:10 +0200
          Re: MDs & Dentists Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-07-15 11:40 +0200
            Re: MDs & Dentists <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-07-15 12:30 +0200
        Re: MDs & Dentists Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-07-15 08:50 +0200
          Re: MDs & Dentists Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-20 17:40 +0200
            Re: MDs & Dentists Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-07-21 10:20 +0200
              Re: MDs & Dentists Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-21 17:00 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-07-21 17:40 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-07-21 18:00 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Gunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com> - 2021-08-01 15:40 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-08-01 16:00 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Gunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com> - 2021-08-01 16:00 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-08-01 18:30 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-08-01 19:10 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-01 22:30 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-01 22:50 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Gunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com> - 2021-08-02 15:00 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Gunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com> - 2021-08-02 15:00 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-08-01 18:00 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Gunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com> - 2021-08-01 15:50 +0200
                Hard to understand, being clear [ was Re: MDs & Dentists] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-01 22:40 +0200
                Re: Hard to understand, being clear [ was Re: MDs & Dentists] Gunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com> - 2021-08-02 15:40 +0200
                Re: Hard to understand, being clear [ was Re: MDs & Dentists] Gunnar Gervin <dofeelok@gmail.com> - 2021-08-02 16:00 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2021-07-21 18:20 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2021-07-21 18:40 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-07-21 19:10 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-07-21 19:40 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-07-21 20:20 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-07-21 21:50 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-07-21 23:50 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-21 19:20 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-07-21 19:40 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-07-21 19:30 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2021-07-21 22:40 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-21 20:40 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-07-21 21:10 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-21 22:30 +0200
                Re: MDs & Dentists Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2021-07-21 21:20 +0200
        Re: MDs & Dentists Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2021-07-15 13:10 +0200
          Re: MDs & Dentists Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-15 15:40 +0200
    Re: MDs & Dentists Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-15 00:30 +0200

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