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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Apple has more record earnings |
| Date | 2014-04-27 09:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <CF827E6A.35D2A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink) |
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On 4/27/14, 8:13 AM, in article ljj6rn$msv$1@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
<slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote:
> On 2014-04-26 6:07 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>
>>> Seriously, what the fuck are you on about?
>>>
>>> They dont want to play PC ganes :
>>
>> Most apple machine *can't* play those games, the hardware is way too limited
>> for that. And impossible to upgrade. YOu have to buy the machines with the
>> config needed, you don't get any upgrade posibilities.
>> The laptops are even limited to memory and SSD, you buy them the way and
>> they *stay* that way. Absolutely horrible if you want more at a later time,
>> it means buy a new machine
>
> My own experience with Mac gaming is that the GPU is always underserved
> because Apple provides terrible drivers for it.
For some things they seem to work poorly, but for video work they seem to
work very well. Look at the Mac Pro reviews on how well it renders 4K video.
Does so amazingly well, and it is largely because of the GPUs. Developers
have to make use of them, though... and so far many do not.
> However, you bring up excellent points: Apple is indeed pushing for its
> machines to come with SSD drives rather than traditional hard disks. While
> they improve gaming performance for those who use them (quicker access time
> essentially improves the "lag" people feel in FPS games), the lack of actual
> storage you get out of them prevents gamers from installing more than a
> handful of games at a time.
Fusion drives give you most of the benefits of both.
>>> for that you buy a PC.
>>
>> Better buy a PC than for everything
>
> Agreed.
Buy what works for you.
>>> But to doubt
>>> Apple's quality (both SW and HAW) in the face of huge proof that it IS
>>> value and quality in market research after another then you're deluded.
>>
>> Their software is mediocre at best, they have an even worse record of
>> repairing bugs than MS has. Their user interface is shitty, it is apples way
>> and no other way. It is practically impossible to configure apple machines
>> the way you like, which is easily done with windows and even more easy with
>> linux
>>
>> Their hardware is good, but not better than many other good hardware
>> Additionally, they tend to introduce new interfaces which are not supported
>> even after quite some time by 3rd party, making them very costly
>
> For the same price, you get the exact same if not better quality from a
> PC machine. If people feel that their entry-level PC laptop is shit in
> comparison to an entry-level Mac laptop, they're free to stop spending
> 300$ on that PC laptop and pay 1,000$ instead. As I mentioned earlier,
> the software Apple provides is indeed less secure and worse than what a
> PC offers. Security is not a priority but neither is performance as can
> be seen by the drivers they provide for the GPUs. Also, the interface
> looked great in 2000 to people who were accustomed to Windows 98 but in
> 2014, there truly is nothing special about OS X. It used to appeal to
> the people because it was "prettier," however both GNU/Linux and Windows
> provide much "prettier" interfaces than Apple does nowadays. Like you
> said, if anybody wants to have the OS X interface in GNU/Linux looking
> EXACTLY like OS X if not prettier, they're free to install XFCE (for
> excellent performance) and a number of different docking utilities.
OS X offers all sorts of system services and tools which no other OS comes
close to. Here is just a partial list:
- Proxy icons
- A Media Browser
- Full screen programs integrating with virtual desktops
- PDF Services
- A system wide color selector which allows for add-ons
- A system wide font manager where you can define sets and more
- Application services
- Renaming and moving and duplicating from within programs
- QuickLook (and its integration with so many programs)
- Saved status indicators
- A visual versioning system - which allows easy copying and pasting
from earlier versions
- A visual backup system that allows a novice to "dig back" into their
history
- Consistent print dialogs
- Consistent save and open dialogs
- Consistent common dialog names and placements and hot keys
Not all programs use each of them, but most use any relevant ones. And it
matters. It affects productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction.
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Apple has more record earnings Jimmy Neutron <nobody@beta.jpunix.net> - 2014-04-24 09:01 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-24 09:14 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-24 08:31 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-25 19:42 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-25 20:45 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-25 17:48 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-25 18:02 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 00:42 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-25 22:56 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 01:11 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 11:00 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 09:49 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Sinister Midget <fardblossom@gmail.com> - 2014-04-26 20:09 +0000
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 13:17 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-04-26 15:38 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-26 13:12 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 13:16 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-26 16:26 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-04-26 15:39 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-26 17:50 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-26 13:58 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-26 17:52 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-26 23:59 +0200
Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-27 01:01 +0200
Re: Apple has more record earnings Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-26 21:19 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 07:34 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-26 19:19 -0600
Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 17:11 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 17:07 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-04-26 17:36 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-27 01:00 +0200
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 17:26 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 19:44 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 18:06 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2014-04-27 09:52 +0100
Re: Apple has more record earnings Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-26 21:20 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 18:26 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2014-04-27 22:21 +0200
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-27 13:23 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-26 16:00 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 19:29 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 17:43 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-04-27 18:45 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Richard Starkey <nobody@ringo.jpunix.net> - 2014-04-26 02:44 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 08:15 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2014-04-26 14:21 +0100
Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 10:24 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 09:50 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 09:47 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-26 13:11 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 10:24 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-26 23:53 +0200
Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-27 00:07 +0200
Re: Apple has more record earnings Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-04-26 17:35 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-27 00:57 +0200
Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 19:56 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 18:06 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2014-04-27 01:24 +0000
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 18:26 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-26 21:27 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 18:37 -0700
To get -your- job done, buy a PC. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-04-26 19:07 -0700
Re: To get -your- job done, buy a PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 19:11 -0700
Re: To get -your- job done, buy a PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-04-26 20:26 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-27 11:19 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-27 17:46 +0200
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-27 09:30 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-27 12:46 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-04-27 13:39 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2014-04-27 22:30 +0200
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-27 13:35 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-04-27 14:41 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-28 15:51 +0200
Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-28 16:00 +0200
Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 12:20 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-28 11:21 -0600
Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 13:33 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-28 12:08 -0600
Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-28 21:03 +0200
Re: Apple has more record earnings GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-28 13:27 -0600
Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 17:35 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-28 14:49 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-28 23:53 +0200
Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 18:11 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 17:28 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2014-04-28 22:47 +0100
Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 18:04 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-04-27 13:37 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-27 12:33 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-27 19:39 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-28 09:14 +0200
Re: Apple has more record earnings Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-28 05:46 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-04-28 03:37 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-28 13:00 +0200
Re: Apple has more record earnings DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-28 08:22 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-28 14:37 +0200
Re: Apple has more record earnings -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-04-28 09:25 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-28 08:22 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-04-28 13:00 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-04-28 12:08 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-28 18:05 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 19:42 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-28 16:52 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-28 15:49 +0200
Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 12:11 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-28 11:26 -0600
Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 13:37 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-04-28 10:58 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 17:19 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-28 14:31 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-28 16:14 -0600
Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 18:28 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-29 00:37 +0200
Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 18:44 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-29 01:09 +0200
Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 19:52 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-29 00:26 +0200
Re: Apple has more record earnings chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-29 06:54 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-28 12:11 -0600
Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 17:32 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-28 12:52 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-04-28 14:05 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-28 15:11 -0600
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-28 12:51 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-04-27 18:56 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-27 20:40 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 08:51 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 17:31 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-27 11:13 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-27 09:29 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 17:33 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-27 11:06 -0400
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-27 09:24 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-04-27 13:41 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-27 12:33 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 07:59 -0500
Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 09:50 -0700
Re: Apple has more record earnings Jack Ryan <mixmaster@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2014-04-26 04:12 -0500
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