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Re: Apple has more record earnings

From Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Apple has more record earnings
Date 2014-04-27 11:13 -0400
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On 2014-04-26 6:07 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:

>> Seriously, what the fuck are you on about?
>>
>> They dont want to play PC ganes :
>
> Most apple machine *can't* play those games, the hardware is way too limited
> for that. And impossible to upgrade. YOu have to buy the machines with the
> config needed, you don't get any upgrade posibilities.
> The laptops are even limited to memory and SSD, you buy them the way and
> they *stay* that way. Absolutely horrible if you want more at a later time,
> it means buy a new machine

My own experience with Mac gaming is that the GPU is always underserved 
because Apple provides terrible drivers for it. However, you bring up 
excellent points: Apple is indeed pushing for its machines to come with 
SSD drives rather than traditional hard disks. While they improve gaming 
performance for those who use them (quicker access time essentially 
improves the "lag" people feel in FPS games), the lack of actual storage 
you get out of them prevents gamers from installing more than a handful 
of games at a time.

>> for that you buy a PC.
>
> Better buy a PC than for everything

Agreed.

>> But to doubt
>> Apple's quality (both SW and HAW) in the face of huge proof that it IS
>> value and quality in market research after another then you're deluded.
>
> Their software is mediocre at best, they have an even worse record of
> repairing bugs than MS has. Their user interface is shitty, it is apples way
> and no other way. It is practically impossible to configure apple machines
> the way you like, which is easily done with windows and even more easy with
> linux
>
> Their hardware is good, but not better than many other good hardware
> Additionally, they tend to introduce new interfaces which are not supported
> even after quite some time by 3rd party, making them very costly

For the same price, you get the exact same if not better quality from a 
PC machine. If people feel that their entry-level PC laptop is shit in 
comparison to an entry-level Mac laptop, they're free to stop spending 
300$ on that PC laptop and pay 1,000$ instead. As I mentioned earlier, 
the software Apple provides is indeed less secure and worse than what a 
PC offers. Security is not a priority but neither is performance as can 
be seen by the drivers they provide for the GPUs. Also, the interface 
looked great in 2000 to people who were accustomed to Windows 98 but in 
2014, there truly is nothing special about OS X. It used to appeal to 
the people because it was "prettier," however both GNU/Linux and Windows 
provide much "prettier" interfaces than Apple does nowadays. Like you 
said, if anybody wants to have the OS X interface in GNU/Linux looking 
EXACTLY like OS X if not prettier, they're free to install XFCE (for 
excellent performance) and a number of different docking utilities.

-- 
Silver Slimer
Wikipedia & OpenMedia Supporter

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Apple has more record earnings Jimmy Neutron <nobody@beta.jpunix.net> - 2014-04-24 09:01 -0400
  Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-24 09:14 -0400
    Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-24 08:31 -0700
  Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-25 19:42 -0500
    Re: Apple has more record earnings 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-25 20:45 -0400
    Re: Apple has more record earnings Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-25 17:48 -0700
      Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-25 18:02 -0700
      Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 00:42 -0500
        Re: Apple has more record earnings Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-25 22:56 -0700
          Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 01:11 -0500
          Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 11:00 -0500
            Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 09:49 -0700
            Re: Apple has more record earnings Sinister Midget <fardblossom@gmail.com> - 2014-04-26 20:09 +0000
              Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 13:17 -0700
              Re: Apple has more record earnings Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-04-26 15:38 -0500
            Re: Apple has more record earnings Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-26 13:12 -0700
              Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 13:16 -0700
              Re: Apple has more record earnings Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-26 16:26 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-04-26 15:39 -0500
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-26 17:50 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-26 13:58 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-26 17:52 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-26 23:59 +0200
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-27 01:01 +0200
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-26 21:19 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 07:34 -0500
                Re: Apple has more record earnings GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-26 19:19 -0600
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 17:11 -0500
              Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 17:07 -0500
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-04-26 17:36 -0500
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-27 01:00 +0200
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 17:26 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 19:44 -0500
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 18:06 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2014-04-27 09:52 +0100
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-26 21:20 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 18:26 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2014-04-27 22:21 +0200
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-27 13:23 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-26 16:00 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 19:29 -0500
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 17:43 -0700
        Re: Apple has more record earnings -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-04-27 18:45 -0700
    Re: Apple has more record earnings Richard Starkey <nobody@ringo.jpunix.net> - 2014-04-26 02:44 -0400
      Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 08:15 -0500
        Re: Apple has more record earnings William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2014-04-26 14:21 +0100
          Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 10:24 -0500
            Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 09:50 -0700
          Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 09:47 -0700
          Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-26 13:11 -0400
            Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 10:24 -0700
            Re: Apple has more record earnings Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-26 23:53 +0200
              Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-27 00:07 +0200
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-04-26 17:35 -0500
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-27 00:57 +0200
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 19:56 -0500
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 18:06 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2014-04-27 01:24 +0000
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 18:26 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-26 21:27 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 18:37 -0700
                To get -your- job done, buy a PC.  Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-04-26 19:07 -0700
                Re: To get -your- job done, buy a PC.  Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 19:11 -0700
                Re: To get -your- job done, buy a PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-04-26 20:26 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-27 11:19 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-27 17:46 +0200
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-27 09:30 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-27 12:46 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-04-27 13:39 -0500
                Re: Apple has more record earnings "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2014-04-27 22:30 +0200
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-27 13:35 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-04-27 14:41 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-28 15:51 +0200
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-28 16:00 +0200
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 12:20 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-28 11:21 -0600
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 13:33 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-28 12:08 -0600
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-28 21:03 +0200
                Re: Apple has more record earnings GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-28 13:27 -0600
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 17:35 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-28 14:49 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-28 23:53 +0200
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 18:11 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 17:28 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2014-04-28 22:47 +0100
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 18:04 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-04-27 13:37 -0500
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-27 12:33 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-27 19:39 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-28 09:14 +0200
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-28 05:46 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-04-28 03:37 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-28 13:00 +0200
                Re: Apple has more record earnings DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-28 08:22 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-28 14:37 +0200
                Re: Apple has more record earnings -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-04-28 09:25 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-28 08:22 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-04-28 13:00 -0500
                Re: Apple has more record earnings -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-04-28 12:08 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-28 18:05 -0500
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 19:42 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-28 16:52 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-28 15:49 +0200
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 12:11 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-28 11:26 -0600
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 13:37 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-04-28 10:58 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 17:19 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-28 14:31 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-28 16:14 -0600
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 18:28 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-29 00:37 +0200
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 18:44 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-29 01:09 +0200
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 19:52 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-29 00:26 +0200
                Re: Apple has more record earnings chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-29 06:54 -0500
                Re: Apple has more record earnings GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-28 12:11 -0600
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 17:32 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-28 12:52 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-04-28 14:05 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-28 15:11 -0600
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-28 12:51 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-04-27 18:56 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-27 20:40 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 08:51 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 17:31 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-27 11:13 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-27 09:29 -0700
              Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 17:33 -0700
              Re: Apple has more record earnings Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-27 11:06 -0400
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-27 09:24 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-04-27 13:41 -0500
                Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-27 12:33 -0700
                Re: Apple has more record earnings chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 07:59 -0500
        Re: Apple has more record earnings Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-26 09:50 -0700
    Re: Apple has more record earnings Jack Ryan <mixmaster@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2014-04-26 04:12 -0500

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