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Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter

Subject Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design
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From bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net>
Message-ID <CDjvA.22383$7b1.4110@fx30.iad> (permalink)
Organization frugalusenet - www.frugalusenet.com
Date 2017-03-06 15:28 -0500

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On 03/06/2017 02:52 PM, rickman wrote:
> On 3/6/2017 12:25 PM, David Lesher wrote:
>> <https://www.utwente.nl/en/news/!/2017/3/313543/electronic-energy-meters-false-readings-almost-six-times-higher-than-actual-energy-consumption>
>>
>>
>> ......"The inaccurate readings are attributed to the energy meter's
>> design, together with the increasing use of modern (often
>> energy-efficient) switching devices. Here, the electricity being
>> consumed no longer has a perfect waveform, instead it acquires
>> an erratic pattern. The designers of modern energy meters
>> have not made sufficient allowance for switching devices of
>> this kind. When they dismantled the energy meters tested, the
>> researchers found that the ones associated with excessively high
>> readings contained a 'Rogowski Coil' while those associated with
>> excessively low readings contained a 'Hall Sensor'."
>>
>> I smell lawsuits since the PoCo's have been removing the
>> old meters en mass....
>
> I've got a house with a broken meter.  The old analog style, the big
> wheel doesn't turn anymore.  I guess after 50 years they wear out.  I
> wonder how many months of $5 utility bills it will take for them to
> figure it out?
>

Even when they used analog meters around here back in the day instead of 
the WiFi ones or whatever they have now, I don't think they read the 
meter every month but often just billed on "estimated usage" by looking 
at a representative sample

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Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2017-03-06 17:25 +0000
  Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-03-06 10:29 -0800
    Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-03-06 14:10 -0500
      Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-03-06 14:21 -0800
        Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-03-06 18:20 -0500
          Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-03-06 16:35 -0800
            Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-03-06 19:53 -0500
              Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-03-06 17:08 -0800
                Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-03-07 13:05 -0500
                Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-03-07 10:43 -0800
                Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-03-07 14:21 -0500
      Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 18:36 -0800
  Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 14:52 -0500
    Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-03-06 12:04 -0800
      Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 15:15 -0500
      Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2017-03-06 14:28 -0600
        Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-03-06 16:41 -0800
    Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2017-03-06 14:26 -0600
      Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-03-06 15:30 -0500
    Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-03-06 15:28 -0500
      Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 16:04 -0500
      Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2017-03-06 16:22 -0800
        Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2017-03-09 16:03 +0000
          Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter Wim Ton <wim.ton@gmail.com> - 2017-03-09 12:39 -0800
          Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-03-09 15:46 -0800
  Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter TTman <pcw1.cad@ntlworld.com> - 2017-03-06 21:48 +0000
    Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-03-06 14:32 -0800
      Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2017-03-09 16:30 +0000
        Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter makolber@yahoo.com - 2017-03-09 12:27 -0800
          Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-03-09 15:43 -0500
            Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter Wim Ton <wim.ton@gmail.com> - 2017-03-09 12:49 -0800
              Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-03-11 11:11 -0500
                Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter Wim Ton <wim.ton@gmail.com> - 2017-03-11 12:28 -0800
            Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-03-09 12:59 -0800
              Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-03-11 17:38 -0500
                Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-03-11 15:04 -0800
        Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter Wim Ton <wim.ton@gmail.com> - 2017-03-09 12:47 -0800
    Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-03-08 20:05 -0500
      Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-03-11 17:42 -0800
  Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 17:53 -0800
  Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-03-07 17:58 +0000
  Re: Trust your what-hour err watt hour meter Anthony Stewart <tony.sunnysky@gmail.com> - 2017-03-09 15:31 -0800

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