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Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

From tomas@tuxteam.de
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?
Date 2021-04-29 16:30 +0200
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On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 01:53:48PM +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> On Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 14:38, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 01:27:07PM +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> >> 2. txt message to your phone (so need not be "smart")
> >
> > You know those can be (and have been) hi-jacked, don't you?
> 
> Yeah. :-(
> 
> What really gets me is the hypocrisy of the whole situation.  I've been
> pushing to have people use public key encryption but they insist on
> sending emails with confidential information in plain text.  Oh, "MFA
> will make everything secure"...

Yes, but 2FA is just about getting the human factor out of the loop.
Put yourself into Google's or Facebook's shoes. All those users who
forget their passwords (or even worse, come up with easily guessable
ones, or use the same password across several services, yadda, yadda).

This is just support burden which diminishes margin. Now there would
be two ways out of that: educate your users or keep them dumb and
take them out of the loop. Which one aligns better with their business
plan? After all, for them "users" are turnips, potatos or cattle:
the product, not the customer.

> > I'm not very much into conspiracy theories [...]

> Everybody needs to be in those walled gardens: Facebook, et al. :-(

That's why I think that they /at least/ "let it happen happily".
Nudging it here and there would make even more sense, strategically.

Not poison the well to sell bottled water, but perhaps sliding
something disgusting in there, from time to time.

Cheers
 - t

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how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Gregor Zattler <telegraph@gmx.net> - 2021-04-28 20:30 +0200
  Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Kushal Kumaran <kushal@locationd.net> - 2021-04-29 03:40 +0200
    Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-04-29 09:10 +0200
      Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-29 09:40 +0200
        Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2021-04-29 14:20 +0200
          Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-29 14:30 +0200
            Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? tomas@tuxteam.de - 2021-04-29 14:40 +0200
              Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? tomas@tuxteam.de - 2021-04-29 16:30 +0200
            Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-04-29 15:10 +0200
              Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2021-04-29 15:20 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-29 16:50 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? tomas@tuxteam.de - 2021-04-29 17:50 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-04-29 21:40 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-29 21:50 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-04-30 02:30 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-30 08:50 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-04-30 15:30 +0200
                Free vs proprietary [was: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 /  davmail?] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-30 16:20 +0200
                Re: Free vs proprietary [was: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?] deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-04-30 22:20 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-04-30 10:20 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-30 10:40 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-04-30 12:40 +0200
              Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-29 16:50 +0200
            Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-04-29 21:50 +0200
              Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-29 21:50 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-04-29 23:50 +0200
              Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-04-30 10:10 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-04-30 21:50 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-04-30 22:20 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-05-01 09:30 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-05-01 10:30 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-05-01 10:40 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-05-01 12:10 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-05-01 17:50 +0200
                [Off-topic] When in Rome... <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-01 18:00 +0200
                Re: [Off-topic] When in Rome... deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-05-01 19:10 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Ángel <debian-user@debian.16bits.net> - 2021-05-03 01:50 +0200
                OT Reading brainwaves [was: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365  / davmail?] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-03 09:10 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-04-30 23:30 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-05-01 09:40 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-01 10:20 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-05-03 10:30 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2021-05-03 16:10 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-05-04 19:10 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-05-03 16:50 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-05-03 17:30 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-05-03 18:30 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-03 18:40 +0200
                [OFFTOPIC] Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-05-03 19:00 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-05-03 21:40 +0200
                [OFFTOPIC] Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-05-03 21:50 +0200
                Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-05-03 22:10 +0200
                Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 /  davmail? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-05-03 22:40 +0200
                Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-05-04 18:10 +0200
                Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-05-04 18:40 +0200
            Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-05-01 09:10 +0200
              Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-01 10:30 +0200
          Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2021-04-29 15:10 +0200
            Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2021-04-29 15:30 +0200
            Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-04-29 21:20 +0200
              Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2021-05-27 15:20 +0200
            Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-30 15:30 +0200
          Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2021-04-29 15:20 +0200
            Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2021-04-29 15:50 +0200
              Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Michael Grant <mgrant@grant.org> - 2021-04-29 16:40 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 /          davmail? Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2021-04-29 19:00 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Kushal Kumaran <kushal@locationd.net> - 2021-04-30 05:20 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 /          davmail? Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2021-04-30 18:30 +0200
  Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Jonathan Siegle <jsiegle@psu.edu> - 2021-04-29 14:40 +0200
    Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-29 14:50 +0200
    Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2021-05-27 15:30 +0200

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