Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

From	Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?
Date	2021-04-29 15:10 +0200
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On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 01:27:07PM +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> And to think that email was once a simple yet effective tool.  It's been
> hijacked.

Spammers took control of it years ago.  It's been dying off, slowly.

While we're swapping anecdotes, I'll give what limited insight I have
into my own workplace's handling of email.  For starters, some of you
may have noticed that I changed my email address on this mailing list.
This is because of policy changes at work that made it effectively
impossible for me to read technical emails via my previous address.
So now I'm subscribed from my personal address instead.  This will work
for me as long as I'm working primarily from home, under Covid rules.

Looking at the subject of this thread just makes me cringe inside,
because whoever is asking that question still has hope.  And that hope
is going to be crushed.

My workplace's official policy is that we are no longer allowed to have
an independent email service of our own.  Period.  Full stop.  All email
at work has to go through the corporate system, which is Microsoft.  No
exceptions.  We're not allowed to host mailboxes, we're not allowed to
receive email from the outside, and we're not allowed to send email
outside, unless it goes through their relays.

In order to continue reading debian-user at work, I would have to allow
its messages to be sent to Microsoft.  I would be reading them through
Outlook Web App.  I cannot accept this.  It's not tolerable.  So, I
unsubscribed from that address, and switched over to this one.

Some of you may be wondering why corporations have done this.  In the
case of mine, it's because of incredibly powerful fears of phishing
and malware.  Some health care providers have been shut down by it in
the last half year, and all the rest are utterly terrified.

So, the official policy is that all incoming email has to go through
the corporate system, which blocks and filters everything to an extreme
degree, in order to try to prevent a malware intrusion via email.  Access
to external mail systems like gmail is also blocked, for the same reason --
they're terrified that someone will receive a malware email at an external
address, view it via web mail in a browser on a Windows machine, and
bring a virus/worm into the corporate network that way.

(They cannot even *comprehend* that some people are not running Windows,
or reading email in anything other than Outlook or a web browser.
Not that it would matter to them.  I'm sure there are people within
that department who would outlaw all non-Windows desktops, if they
could, because they don't control them.  That department feels a need
to control literally *everything* computer-related that any employee
ever sees or touches.)

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how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Gregor Zattler <telegraph@gmx.net> - 2021-04-28 20:30 +0200
  Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Kushal Kumaran <kushal@locationd.net> - 2021-04-29 03:40 +0200
    Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-04-29 09:10 +0200
      Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-29 09:40 +0200
        Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2021-04-29 14:20 +0200
          Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-29 14:30 +0200
            Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? tomas@tuxteam.de - 2021-04-29 14:40 +0200
              Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? tomas@tuxteam.de - 2021-04-29 16:30 +0200
            Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-04-29 15:10 +0200
              Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2021-04-29 15:20 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-29 16:50 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? tomas@tuxteam.de - 2021-04-29 17:50 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-04-29 21:40 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-29 21:50 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-04-30 02:30 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-30 08:50 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-04-30 15:30 +0200
                Free vs proprietary [was: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 /  davmail?] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-30 16:20 +0200
                Re: Free vs proprietary [was: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?] deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-04-30 22:20 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-04-30 10:20 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-30 10:40 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-04-30 12:40 +0200
              Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-29 16:50 +0200
            Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-04-29 21:50 +0200
              Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-29 21:50 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-04-29 23:50 +0200
              Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-04-30 10:10 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-04-30 21:50 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-04-30 22:20 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-05-01 09:30 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-05-01 10:30 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-05-01 10:40 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-05-01 12:10 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-05-01 17:50 +0200
                [Off-topic] When in Rome... <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-01 18:00 +0200
                Re: [Off-topic] When in Rome... deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-05-01 19:10 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Ángel <debian-user@debian.16bits.net> - 2021-05-03 01:50 +0200
                OT Reading brainwaves [was: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365  / davmail?] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-03 09:10 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-04-30 23:30 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-05-01 09:40 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-01 10:20 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-05-03 10:30 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2021-05-03 16:10 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-05-04 19:10 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-05-03 16:50 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-05-03 17:30 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-05-03 18:30 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-03 18:40 +0200
                [OFFTOPIC] Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-05-03 19:00 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-05-03 21:40 +0200
                [OFFTOPIC] Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-05-03 21:50 +0200
                Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-05-03 22:10 +0200
                Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 /  davmail? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-05-03 22:40 +0200
                Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-05-04 18:10 +0200
                Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-05-04 18:40 +0200
            Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-05-01 09:10 +0200
              Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-01 10:30 +0200
          Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2021-04-29 15:10 +0200
            Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2021-04-29 15:30 +0200
            Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-04-29 21:20 +0200
              Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2021-05-27 15:20 +0200
            Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-30 15:30 +0200
          Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2021-04-29 15:20 +0200
            Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2021-04-29 15:50 +0200
              Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Michael Grant <mgrant@grant.org> - 2021-04-29 16:40 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 /          davmail? Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2021-04-29 19:00 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Kushal Kumaran <kushal@locationd.net> - 2021-04-30 05:20 +0200
                Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 /          davmail? Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2021-04-30 18:30 +0200
  Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Jonathan Siegle <jsiegle@psu.edu> - 2021-04-29 14:40 +0200
    Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-29 14:50 +0200
    Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail? Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2021-05-27 15:30 +0200

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