Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes

From	"Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.project
Subject	Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes
Date	2021-04-18 23:50 +0200
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On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 11:01:36PM +0200, Timo Röhling wrote:
> * Stéphane Glondu <glondu@debian.org> [2021-04-16 17:12]:
> > I would be glad to help :-)
> Great!
> 
> > > With all that being said and having made my case, I am open for any
> > > reasonably secure solution (including Belenios) that we can agree on,
> > > and I will help implement it if I can.
> > And I am open to make changes in Belenios if needed.
> I'd like to raise two questions for debate:
> 
> 1. Do we want to retain the ability to vote openly?
> 
> Obviously, open votes are more transparent, which is nice and very
> appropriate for many technical issues that we might vote on. On the
> other hand, most votes in Debian are DPL elections anyway.
> 
Yes, as far as possible. Agreed: most votes are the annual DPL election.

> 2. How much are we committed to the current process that works
> exclusively via email?
> 
> Personally, I think that a structured HTML form is more accessible for
> screen readers than pure text ballots, and you can still make the web
> interface render nicely in a text browser such as Lynx or w3m.
> 
> On the other hand, some people might have considerably less trust in
> their web browser than their email client.
> 

No, please don't. We already have problems enough with HTML - a structured
form would need to be fully accessible, secure, validated. A signed email
is (relatively) more straightforward and has served us well for the last
25 years.

Just my 0.02 - but we're all probably getting well ahead of ourselves -
having just had two votes, maybe we should not be changing the system
immediately.

Andy Cater

> 
> Cheers
> Timo
> 
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DEP-16 Confidential votes Timo Röhling <timo@gaussglocke.de> - 2021-04-13 11:10 +0200
  Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2021-04-13 11:30 +0200
    Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Timo Röhling <timo@gaussglocke.de> - 2021-04-13 11:50 +0200
      Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2021-04-13 15:40 +0200
      Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2021-04-13 18:20 +0200
        Re: Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Timo Röhling <timo@gaussglocke.de> - 2021-04-14 00:40 +0200
          Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2021-04-14 01:00 +0200
            Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2021-04-14 18:50 +0200
              Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Timo Röhling <timo@gaussglocke.de> - 2021-04-14 21:00 +0200
            Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Timo Röhling <timo@gaussglocke.de> - 2021-04-14 19:10 +0200
              Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Stéphane Glondu <glondu@debian.org> - 2021-04-16 18:10 +0200
                Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Timo Röhling <timo@gaussglocke.de> - 2021-04-18 23:10 +0200
                Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-04-18 23:50 +0200
                Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Kurt Roeckx <kurt@roeckx.be> - 2021-04-19 00:40 +0200
                Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2021-04-19 00:20 +0200
                Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Olek Wojnar <olek@debian.org> - 2021-04-19 07:00 +0200
                Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Kurt Roeckx <kurt@roeckx.be> - 2021-04-19 09:10 +0200
                Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2021-04-19 14:50 +0200
                Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Olek Wojnar <olek@debian.org> - 2021-04-19 19:20 +0200
                Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Olek Wojnar <olek@debian.org> - 2021-04-19 07:00 +0200
                Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2021-04-19 14:50 +0200
                Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Sam Hartman <hartmans@suchdamage.org> - 2021-04-19 15:20 +0200
                Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Timo Röhling <timo@gaussglocke.de> - 2021-04-19 16:40 +0200

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