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Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

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On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 19:39:43 -0400
Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:

> Celejar wrote: 
> > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:51:28 -0400
> > Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > > Okay, but why isn't trying to limit spammers getting hold of an address
> > > > a logical part of a defense in depth strategy?
> > > 
> > > Because it doesn't work. If it worked as well as, say, moving
> > > your SSH port*, I would encourage it. It does not.
> > 
> > Source? Is this your personal experience, or do you have some other
> > basis for this? Cloudflare, for example, asserts that:
> > 
> > "Cloudflare Email Address Obfuscation helps in spam prevention by
> > hiding email addresses appearing in your pages from email harvesters
> > and other bots, while remaining visible to your site visitors."
> 
> Source: experience from being actively involved in the Internet
> for 25 years, including time on anti-spam initiatives at BBN and
> Akamai, various mail anti-abuse working groups (now
> https://www.m3aawg.org/ which I'm not currently involved with
> particularly) and running personal and corporate mail servers
> for most of that time.

Sounds good to me :)

> > > OK, use tagged addresses. Gmail has that feature for free.
> > > 
> > > page and tell Gmail to spam-bin the old address.
> > 
> > Worth considering, certainly. I try to avoid Gmail as much as possible
> > (I know that I'm still using it for d-u), but I can check to see
> > whether the other email providers I use support plus addressing.
> 
> The good ones will. The best ones will also offer - addressing
> on the same terms. Turns out that a bunch of idiots think that +
> is not a valid mail left-hand-side character, but - is.

I use some GMX accounts, and they apparently don't support plus
addressing (I just tried, and the message was refused with "550
Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable."). I suppose it would be
nice if they did support it, but I can't really fault them for not
supporting a non-standard Google invention.

Celejar

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Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-04-05 22:00 +0200
  Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-05 22:20 +0200
    Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2021-04-05 23:10 +0200
    Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-04-06 01:50 +0200
      Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2021-04-06 02:00 +0200
        Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-04-06 02:30 +0200
          Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2021-04-06 02:40 +0200
      Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-06 03:00 +0200
        Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-04-06 03:40 +0200
          Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-06 04:00 +0200
    Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2021-04-06 08:40 +0200
      Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-06 14:20 +0200

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