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Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

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On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:51:28 -0400
Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:

> Celejar wrote: 
> > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 14:12:07 -0400
> > Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > Celejar wrote: 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > What's the recommended modern best practice for putting a contact email
> > > > address on the web while avoiding having it scraped by spam / fraud
> > > > bots?
> > > 
> > > Assume that every address will be hit by spammers and scammers.
> > > Put in appropriate antispam and antimalware precautions.
> > 
> > Okay, but why isn't trying to limit spammers getting hold of an address
> > a logical part of a defense in depth strategy?
> 
> Because it doesn't work. If it worked as well as, say, moving
> your SSH port*, I would encourage it. It does not.

Source? Is this your personal experience, or do you have some other
basis for this? Cloudflare, for example, asserts that:

"Cloudflare Email Address Obfuscation helps in spam prevention by
hiding email addresses appearing in your pages from email harvesters
and other bots, while remaining visible to your site visitors."

https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200170016-What-is-Email-Address-Obfuscation-

...

> > > Train your people to recognize spam and scams.
> > 
> > I'm talking about a small hobby project that I run in my spare time. I
> > just want to reduce spam to an address that I may put up to allow
> > people to reach me.
> 
> OK, use tagged addresses. Gmail has that feature for free.
> 
> I'll give you an example: when I registered for an account on
> tvtropes.org, I handed them dsr-tropes@randomstring.org.
> 
> A few months later, I knew that their database had been raided,
> and since I had never received anything useful at that address, 
> I told my mailfilter to drop dsr-tropes@ into the spam bin.
> 
> celejar+debianusers@gmail.com will be directed to your GMail
> account. So will celejar+celerysticks@, celejar+support@, and
> celejar+supportApril2021@gmail.com.
> 
> When the spam load becomes too much, change it on the support
> page and tell Gmail to spam-bin the old address.

Worth considering, certainly. I try to avoid Gmail as much as possible
(I know that I'm still using it for d-u), but I can check to see
whether the other email providers I use support plus addressing.

Thanks,

Celejar

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Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-04-05 22:00 +0200
  Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-05 22:20 +0200
    Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2021-04-05 23:10 +0200
    Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-04-06 01:50 +0200
      Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2021-04-06 02:00 +0200
        Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-04-06 02:30 +0200
          Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2021-04-06 02:40 +0200
      Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-06 03:00 +0200
        Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-04-06 03:40 +0200
          Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-06 04:00 +0200
    Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2021-04-06 08:40 +0200
      Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-06 14:20 +0200

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