Re: SanDisk USB stick problem

From	Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: SanDisk USB stick problem
Date	2020-12-10 11:20 +0100
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On Thu, 2020-12-10 at 10:56 +0100, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 09:00:39AM +0000, Tixy wrote:
> > On Thu, 2020-12-10 at 08:53 +0000, Tixy wrote:
> > > Perhaps your USB stick is formatted with exFAT (which only gained
> > > kernel support this year) and me and Celejar are using older
> > > FAT/VFAT/FAT32 (I am). That would explain our different
> > > experiences
> > > with fuse getting involved.
> > 
> > I just saw from you other replies that you're on Debian unstable,
> > so
> > your kernel does have exFAT support. There must be something more
> > complicated going on then for your system to chose to use fuse to
> > mount
> > the USB stick.
> 
> I think the tencency is to mount untrusted file systems over FUSE,
> due to the realisation that file system code wasn't designed with
> malicious file system images in mind (remember? the time that code
> got written, you had one hard disk firmly screwed into your beige
> box computer), and on the hope that something exploding in user
> space might be less devastating that having it explode in kernel
> space...

I can see there is good reasoning in that, perhaps that reasoning has
been implemented by the components in Debian Bullseye. Does seem a
little perverse though if it should be implemented just after Linux
gains an exFAT kernel driver, a filesystem that only really exists for
interoperability between devices (i.e. those that will be removable
media).

-- 
Tixy

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SanDisk USB stick problem Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2020-12-08 16:30 +0100
  Re: SanDisk USB stick problem steve <dlist@bluewin.ch> - 2020-12-08 16:50 +0100
    Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2020-12-08 20:50 +0100
  Re: SanDisk USB stick problem l0f4r0@tuta.io - 2020-12-08 16:50 +0100
  Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-12-08 17:00 +0100
    Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2020-12-08 20:50 +0100
      Re: SanDisk USB stick problem David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-12-08 22:20 +0100
        Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-12-08 22:30 +0100
          Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-12-08 23:10 +0100
            Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-12-09 00:00 +0100
              Re: SanDisk USB stick problem David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-12-09 00:40 +0100
          Re: SanDisk USB stick problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-12-08 23:20 +0100
            Re: SanDisk USB stick problem "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2020-12-08 23:30 +0100
              Re: SanDisk USB stick problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-12-09 09:10 +0100
            Re: SanDisk USB stick problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-12-09 10:00 +0100
              Re: SanDisk USB stick problem "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-12-09 10:20 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-12-09 12:20 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2020-12-09 22:20 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-12-09 22:30 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2020-12-09 22:40 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-12-09 23:20 +0100
          Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2020-12-08 23:50 +0100
          Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2020-12-09 02:10 +0100
            Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Pankaj Jangid <pankaj@codeisgreat.org> - 2020-12-09 10:20 +0100
    Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Mike McClain <mike.junk.46@att.net> - 2020-12-09 02:10 +0100
  Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2020-12-08 17:00 +0100
    Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-12-08 17:00 +0100
  Re: SanDisk USB stick problem David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-12-09 05:40 +0100
    Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-09 11:30 +0100
    Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-12-09 19:40 +0100
      Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-12-09 20:20 +0100
        Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-12-09 21:30 +0100
          Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-12-09 21:40 +0100
            Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2020-12-10 09:30 +0100
              Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-12-10 09:40 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2020-12-10 10:00 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2020-12-10 10:10 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-12-10 11:00 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2020-12-10 11:20 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-12-10 14:20 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-12-10 20:10 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2020-12-10 10:20 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-12-10 13:50 +0100
          Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-10 09:20 +0100
            Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-12-10 18:40 +0100
            Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-12-10 20:10 +0100
        Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-10 09:20 +0100
    Re: SanDisk USB stick problem [solved] Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2020-12-09 20:30 +0100
      Re: SanDisk USB stick problem [solved] Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-12-09 20:50 +0100
        Re: SanDisk USB stick problem [solved] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-12-09 21:30 +0100
        Re: SanDisk USB stick problem [solved] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-10 10:10 +0100

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