Re: SanDisk USB stick problem

From	Celejar <celejar@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: SanDisk USB stick problem
Date	2020-12-10 18:40 +0100
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On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 10:17:41 +0200
Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mi, 09 dec 20, 15:23:44, Celejar wrote:
> >
> > I'm curious about this because I can't imagine that FUSE performance is
> > as good as native, so why would automounters pay the performance
> > penalty of FUSE when native mounting would seem easy enough to do?
> 
> The ntfs-3g developers claim there is no significant penalty. Testing 
> their claims would be difficult though, considering the kernel driver 
> has limited functionality.

I'm certainly not going to dispute the ntfs-3g developers, but I had
had in mind these comments of Linus Torvald that I had just come across:

"People who think that userspace filesystems are realistic for anything
but toys are just misguided.

fuse works fine if the thing being exported is some random low-use
interface to a fundamentally slow device. But for something like your
root filesystem? Nope. Not going to happen."

https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/6/9/462

Linus sometimes exaggerates, and in any event, external USB storage
devices are (generally) somewhere in between "your root filesystem" and
"some random low-use ..."

A quick search turns up this:

https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/fast17/fast17-vangoor.pdf

which I haven't had a chance to read.

Celejar

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    Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2020-12-08 20:50 +0100
      Re: SanDisk USB stick problem David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-12-08 22:20 +0100
        Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-12-08 22:30 +0100
          Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-12-08 23:10 +0100
            Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-12-09 00:00 +0100
              Re: SanDisk USB stick problem David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-12-09 00:40 +0100
          Re: SanDisk USB stick problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-12-08 23:20 +0100
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              Re: SanDisk USB stick problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-12-09 09:10 +0100
            Re: SanDisk USB stick problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-12-09 10:00 +0100
              Re: SanDisk USB stick problem "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-12-09 10:20 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-12-09 12:20 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2020-12-09 22:20 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-12-09 22:30 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2020-12-09 22:40 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-12-09 23:20 +0100
          Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2020-12-08 23:50 +0100
          Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2020-12-09 02:10 +0100
            Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Pankaj Jangid <pankaj@codeisgreat.org> - 2020-12-09 10:20 +0100
    Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Mike McClain <mike.junk.46@att.net> - 2020-12-09 02:10 +0100
  Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2020-12-08 17:00 +0100
    Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-12-08 17:00 +0100
  Re: SanDisk USB stick problem David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-12-09 05:40 +0100
    Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-09 11:30 +0100
    Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-12-09 19:40 +0100
      Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-12-09 20:20 +0100
        Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-12-09 21:30 +0100
          Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-12-09 21:40 +0100
            Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2020-12-10 09:30 +0100
              Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-12-10 09:40 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2020-12-10 10:00 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2020-12-10 10:10 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-12-10 11:00 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2020-12-10 11:20 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-12-10 14:20 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-12-10 20:10 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2020-12-10 10:20 +0100
                Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-12-10 13:50 +0100
          Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-10 09:20 +0100
            Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-12-10 18:40 +0100
            Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-12-10 20:10 +0100
        Re: SanDisk USB stick problem Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-10 09:20 +0100
    Re: SanDisk USB stick problem [solved] Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2020-12-09 20:30 +0100
      Re: SanDisk USB stick problem [solved] Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-12-09 20:50 +0100
        Re: SanDisk USB stick problem [solved] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-12-09 21:30 +0100
        Re: SanDisk USB stick problem [solved] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-10 10:10 +0100

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