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Bug#974992: Licencing disagreement causes user confusion

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On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 11:32:24PM +0100, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
> Right, it's in main in Ubuntu, but I think the meaning of main differs
> between Debian and Ubuntu. "main" in Ubuntu means that it's a package where
> Canonical takes responsibility for security updates, as opposed to
> "universe" which is a community concern.

ack.
 
> I think the explanation can be found in d/control of fonts-ubuntu:
> https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/f/fonts-ubuntu/control-0.83-4
> It says "Section: non-free/fonts" also in the Ubuntu archive. 

frankly I don't understand why you don't fix this on the Ubuntu side? :)

> And that's
> probably the reason why the adjustment I propose in the merge request makes
> a difference.

actually I dont see a merge request anywhere(???)
 
> > IOW: I don't see how vrms's code (or data) implements the above
> > position of Debian. Which leads me to another question, though
> > probably rather unrelated to this bug: where did you hear/read about
> > this being the Debian position? :)
> 
> In d/copyright of fonts-ubuntu:
> 
> https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/f/fonts-ubuntu/copyright-0.83-4

ah, thanks.

That file refers to #603157 which is a rather old and which states that
a.) the Ubuntu Fonts License 1.0 is an interim solution and b.) that
everybody would like to fix the build system, so that ubuntu-fonts could
probably also go into main in Debian. Do you know of any progress on
these issues?

> > $ find /etc/apt/sources.list* -type f |xargs cat
> 
> Please find two attachments with that info.
> 
> -- 
> Gunnar Hjalmarsson
> https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj

> $ vrms
>        Non-free packages installed on gunnar-ubuntu-current
[...]
> fonts-ubuntu                        sans-serif font set from Ubuntu
[...]

ok, so it's detected as coming from non-free which makes sense now that I
know what's in debian/control of that package..


> $ find /etc/apt/sources.list* -type f |xargs cat
[...]

thanks, there's no non-free in it, so it's coming from the installed
package... (see the first question of this mail above :)

So, I don't think this should be fixed in vrms: the fonts-ubuntu package
on Ubuntu ships meta data which specifies the package is non-free and
vrms merely displays this information. So even on the Ubuntu side I think
this should be fixed in src:fonts-ubuntu and non in src:vrms.

Unless some convincing argument shows up I will close this bug soon.


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	Holger

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Bug#974992: Licencing disagreement causes user confusion Gunnar Hjalmarsson <gunnarhj@ubuntu.com> - 2020-11-17 19:10 +0100
  Bug#974992: Licencing disagreement causes user confusion Gunnar Hjalmarsson <gunnarhj@ubuntu.com> - 2020-11-18 01:50 +0100
  Bug#974992: Licencing disagreement causes user confusion Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2020-11-18 22:50 +0100
    Bug#974992: Licencing disagreement causes user confusion Gunnar Hjalmarsson <gunnarhj@ubuntu.com> - 2020-11-18 23:40 +0100
      Bug#974992: Licencing disagreement causes user confusion Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2020-11-18 23:50 +0100
        Bug#974992: Licencing disagreement causes user confusion Gunnar Hjalmarsson <gunnarhj@ubuntu.com> - 2020-11-19 00:30 +0100
  Bug#974992: Licencing disagreement causes user confusion Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2020-11-18 23:00 +0100

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