Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy)

From	deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
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Subject	Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy)
Date	2021-03-14 14:50 +0100
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tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> This is nonsense. "The best" without any context is just meaningless.
> 

Come on, you yourself write below why.

> Let me put an example: a friend of mine is doing biological research
> (mRNA and that kind of stuff).
> 
> She relies totally on Google to keep the research papers she's reading
> in order. Whenever she needs a paper, Google is the entry point. One
> or two words, and presto, the paper she needs is whithin the first
> three hits.
> 
> Once she was working at home and tried the same. No luck. Cooking recipes,
> whatever you want, no bio research papers.
> 
> I think by now every avid reader will have an idea of what's going on.
> The whole fuzzball of metadata you share with Google (your IP address,
> your browser version, the whole compost heap of cookies, browser metrics
> prior search history with Google and affiliates -- all of that kaboodle
> is part of your search query, without you knowing it.
> 

Exactly - this is the best in case you want to get advantage of the metadata
collected.
I am not expert on Google, but AFAIR you better use your account - this way
it doesn't matter what is the IP.
The IP would matter if you are not logged in.

> If you /want/ to get back part of that control, you have to understand
> that. When you search with DDG, you have to ask yourself: "since they
> don't know, how can I narrow the search context?".
> 
> After a while, this becomes second nature, and DDG results start being
> more or less as good as Google's.
> 
> I know because I tried.

Me too - doing the same - but as you say "more or less as good as
Google's" - it is not as good, because of the metadata.

Now, I wouldn't even think of using DDG, if I was not suspecting Google
abusing privacy. Here DDG comes very handy.
Everything that has to do with technical stuff - goes through Google. The
stuff is neutral. The rest through DDG.
I guess in Google's eyes I will be becoming a geek soon

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Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@surfnaked.ca> - 2021-03-13 20:30 +0100
  Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2021-03-13 21:50 +0100
    Re: Google vs. DDG Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-03-13 22:00 +0100
      Re: Google vs. DDG Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-03-13 22:30 +0100
      Re: Google vs. DDG <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-13 23:30 +0100
        Re: Google vs. DDG ellanios82 <ellanios82@gmail.com> - 2021-03-14 00:10 +0100
          Re: Google vs. DDG Jeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2021-03-14 00:40 +0100
            Re: Google vs. DDG deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-14 10:10 +0100
              Re: Google vs. DDG Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2021-03-14 10:20 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-14 15:00 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2021-03-14 21:50 +0100
          Re: Google vs. DDG Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-03-14 00:50 +0100
            Re: Google vs. DDG ellanios82 <ellanios82@gmail.com> - 2021-03-14 01:00 +0100
              Re: Google vs. DDG <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-14 10:00 +0100
    Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> - 2021-03-13 22:10 +0100
    Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-13 22:40 +0100
      Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-14 00:00 +0100
        Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-14 10:10 +0100
          Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-14 11:00 +0100
            Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-14 11:20 +0100
              Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-14 12:20 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-14 12:50 +0100
          Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-14 14:50 +0100
            Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-14 15:10 +0100
              Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-03-16 14:50 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-16 15:10 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-03-16 15:50 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) tomas@tuxteam.de - 2021-03-16 16:10 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-16 21:50 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG ellanios82 <ellanios82@gmail.com> - 2021-03-16 22:10 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-03-16 22:50 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-17 00:20 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) ghe2001 <ghe2001@protonmail.com> - 2021-03-16 23:30 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-17 00:20 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-17 09:20 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-28 17:10 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) tomas@tuxteam.de - 2021-04-28 17:40 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-04-28 17:50 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-28 18:10 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-28 18:10 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-04-28 18:30 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-28 18:50 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-04-28 22:00 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-28 18:20 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-28 18:50 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-04-28 20:10 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2021-04-28 22:00 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2021-04-29 02:00 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Yitzhak Grossman <ygrossman@gmx.com> - 2021-04-29 04:30 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-29 09:30 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-29 16:10 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-29 17:10 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-05-02 13:00 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2021-05-02 13:30 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2021-05-02 14:00 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-02 14:10 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-05-02 18:00 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-02 18:20 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-02 14:30 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2021-05-02 14:50 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-02 15:20 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-05-02 15:30 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-05-02 14:30 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-05-02 16:00 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-05-02 15:10 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-02 15:20 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-05-02 17:50 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-05-02 20:20 +0200

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