Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy)

From	<tomas@tuxteam.de>
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Subject	Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy)
Date	2021-04-29 09:30 +0200
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On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 10:05:22PM -0400, Yitzhak Grossman wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 20:49:56 -0300
> riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

> > I have no idea if this Thetis business is pretty popular or well-know (first
> > time I heard about them), but: couldn't be maybe that Thetis paid for some
> > Google Ads (and no DDG Ads, let's say) and that "put them in the (G)map?
> >
> > Just something that came to my mind - to be rigorous: a fully *uneducated*
> > guess...
> 
> A worthy guess, but it doesn't work:

It isn't as easily dismissible, though...

> 1) Thetis is a pretty well known brand in this area

It seems so, yes.

> 2) The DDG results *are for Thetis products* - but only Amazon listings
> and reviews and roundups of Thetis and similar products, rather than
> the company's website.

Thetis seems to be paying for Google, in one currency or another. For
one, fonts and jquery get downloaded directly from googleapis.com, so
Big G gets a tug each time someone hits their page. Then, they embed
Google analytics scripts in their page (one reason, BTW, why I insist
in disabling javascript in my browser).

Probably this is the kind of thing you learn when attending to a SEO
workshop.

In other words, people learn how to be listed by Google at the top,
and customers pay those people to do so. Or would you think that whole
industry called SEO is about DDG? No, it's Google, then, perhaps,
as a far second, Binge.

One might think that, e.g. DDG could try to leverage the same SEO
mechanisms, but, in my examples above, it's a Google site which gets
hits for fonts and other assets: why shouldn't Google use that signal
to prime their crawler?

It's the subtle network effects what's interesting :-)

Cheers
 - t

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Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@surfnaked.ca> - 2021-03-13 20:30 +0100
  Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2021-03-13 21:50 +0100
    Re: Google vs. DDG Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-03-13 22:00 +0100
      Re: Google vs. DDG Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-03-13 22:30 +0100
      Re: Google vs. DDG <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-13 23:30 +0100
        Re: Google vs. DDG ellanios82 <ellanios82@gmail.com> - 2021-03-14 00:10 +0100
          Re: Google vs. DDG Jeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2021-03-14 00:40 +0100
            Re: Google vs. DDG deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-14 10:10 +0100
              Re: Google vs. DDG Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2021-03-14 10:20 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-14 15:00 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2021-03-14 21:50 +0100
          Re: Google vs. DDG Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-03-14 00:50 +0100
            Re: Google vs. DDG ellanios82 <ellanios82@gmail.com> - 2021-03-14 01:00 +0100
              Re: Google vs. DDG <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-14 10:00 +0100
    Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> - 2021-03-13 22:10 +0100
    Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-13 22:40 +0100
      Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-14 00:00 +0100
        Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-14 10:10 +0100
          Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-14 11:00 +0100
            Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-14 11:20 +0100
              Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-14 12:20 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-14 12:50 +0100
          Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-14 14:50 +0100
            Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-14 15:10 +0100
              Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-03-16 14:50 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-16 15:10 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-03-16 15:50 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) tomas@tuxteam.de - 2021-03-16 16:10 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-16 21:50 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG ellanios82 <ellanios82@gmail.com> - 2021-03-16 22:10 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-03-16 22:50 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-17 00:20 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) ghe2001 <ghe2001@protonmail.com> - 2021-03-16 23:30 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-17 00:20 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-17 09:20 +0100
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-28 17:10 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) tomas@tuxteam.de - 2021-04-28 17:40 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-04-28 17:50 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-28 18:10 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-28 18:10 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-04-28 18:30 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-28 18:50 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-04-28 22:00 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-28 18:20 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-28 18:50 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-04-28 20:10 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2021-04-28 22:00 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2021-04-29 02:00 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Yitzhak Grossman <ygrossman@gmx.com> - 2021-04-29 04:30 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-29 09:30 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-29 16:10 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-29 17:10 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-05-02 13:00 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2021-05-02 13:30 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2021-05-02 14:00 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-02 14:10 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-05-02 18:00 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-02 18:20 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-02 14:30 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2021-05-02 14:50 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-02 15:20 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-05-02 15:30 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-05-02 14:30 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-05-02 16:00 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-05-02 15:10 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-05-02 15:20 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-05-02 17:50 +0200
                Re: Google vs. DDG Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-05-02 20:20 +0200

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