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| From | Tom Yates <madhatter@teaparty.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) |
| Date | 2021-03-14 07:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <BSsqe-6bx-1@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
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On Sat, 13 Mar 2021, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>>> I'll stick with Signal for now, at least it's something that I can
>>>> confidently recommend to people as "WhatsApp, but really
>>>> secure/private".
>>> I guess it's a bit more secure/private than whatsapp because you can see
>>> the code of the client, but AFAICT it's still just as centralized :-(
>> Since it's end-to-end encrypted I fail to see what major benefit
>> federation would bring for one-to-one communication and small private
>> groups.
>
> WhatsApp is also (presumably!) end-to-end encrypted, so that's not the
> only problem with it.
>
> The problem is also the metadata: it still leaves a centralized record
> of who sent what size of message to whom at what time and from which
> IP address.
an excellent point. furthermore, you can be summarily thrown off a
central service, by the provider; it is *much* more difficult to eject
someone from a federated service.
--
Tom Yates - https://www.teaparty.net
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Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-03-14 00:50 +0100
Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) Tom Yates <madhatter@teaparty.net> - 2021-03-14 07:30 +0100
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Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-14 13:10 +0100
Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-14 13:30 +0100
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