Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be adapted to Debian.

From	Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be adapted to Debian.
Date	2021-03-10 22:10 +0100
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Joe wrote: 
> There was a time when 'software' and 'applications' were two different
> and distinct things, when applications were user programs and software
> was the set of programs that made the computer work, today called system
> software. A computer as delivered contained both hardware and software,
> and it was up to the owner to write the applications. OK, that's going
> back a bit...

Once upon a time there were programmers. Frequently they had to
build the hardware that they programmed -- indeed, it was a bit
of a luxury to only be a programmer, and not also have
responsibility for hardware maintenance (or design).

Then there were systems programmers and application programmers.
Systems programmers wrote operating systems and utilities for
them. Applications programmers wrote applications. There was a lot of crossover.

Then there were operators, systems programmers and application
programmers. Operator was a junior position that did physical
things (mount tapes, plug in cables) and ran commands to do
things on the systems. They usually moved up to being --

Systems administrators, who did some programming in service to
the systems, but not too much. The more senior a sysadmin was,
the more time they spent programming and the less time they
spent doing physical things, unless they wanted to do that.

Sysadmins started to specialize. People who configured switches
and routers and talked to telephone companies became
"network engineers". People who spent time working on
firewalls and security policies and thinking about that became
"security engineers". Junior people who read scripts to
end users became the helpdesk. And so forth.

Then we noticed that a bunch of people were doing things
manually when they should be automated. This was especially bad
in places where there were no senior sysadmins or systems
programmers. But we did have the internet, and senior sysadmins
got together and started writing tools to make their lives
easier: infrastructure automation. Current tools for that
include chef, puppet, ansible, salt...

(all of this is largely quoting myself circa April 2016)

-dsr-

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Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-10 04:10 +0100
  Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-03-10 05:00 +0100
    Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-10 13:30 +0100
      Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be adapted  to Debian. The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-03-10 13:50 +0100
        Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2021-03-10 14:00 +0100
          Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-10 19:10 +0100
            Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-03-10 19:20 +0100
              Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-10 20:30 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-10 22:10 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be adapted  to Debian. The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-03-11 01:10 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-11 01:40 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be adapted  to Debian. The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-03-11 01:50 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-11 03:30 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be adapted  to Debian. The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-03-11 11:50 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-11 12:50 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-11 10:30 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-03-11 11:50 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-03-11 13:50 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-11 14:50 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be adapted to Debian. Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-03-11 18:10 +0100
            Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2021-03-10 19:30 +0100
              Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-10 20:40 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be adapted to Debian. Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-03-10 23:30 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-11 00:30 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-03-11 12:00 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-03-11 20:00 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-11 21:10 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-03-12 05:10 +0100
                Windows drive letters (was Re: Is there an alternative filesystem  hierarchy that could be adapted to Debian.) The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-03-12 10:40 +0100
                Re: Windows drive letters (was Re: Is there an alternative  filesystem hierarchy that could be adapted to Debian.) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-03-12 23:30 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-12 17:10 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-03-12 23:20 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-03-12 15:30 +0100
            Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-11 10:20 +0100
          Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be adapted to Debian. Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-03-10 23:20 +0100
            Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Jeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2021-03-10 23:30 +0100
              Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be adapted to Debian. Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-03-11 00:30 +0100
            Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> - 2021-03-10 23:40 +0100
              Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-11 00:50 +0100
            Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. IL Ka <kazakevichilya@gmail.com> - 2021-03-11 01:00 +0100
              Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-03-11 01:30 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-11 01:40 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. IL Ka <kazakevichilya@gmail.com> - 2021-03-11 02:20 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-11 03:10 +0100
        Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-10 14:00 +0100
          Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-10 14:10 +0100
            Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be adapted  to Debian. The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-03-10 14:30 +0100
              Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-10 19:10 +0100
        Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-10 14:10 +0100
          Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. IL Ka <kazakevichilya@gmail.com> - 2021-03-10 14:30 +0100
        Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be adapted to Debian. "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-03-10 14:20 +0100
    Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. "J.B. Nicholson" <jbn@forestfield.org> - 2021-03-11 01:50 +0100
  Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2021-03-10 10:10 +0100
  Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-03-10 14:20 +0100
    Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-10 14:30 +0100
      Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2021-03-10 15:40 +0100
      Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-03-10 16:30 +0100
        Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2021-03-10 18:00 +0100
        Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-10 21:30 +0100
          Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-03-10 21:40 +0100
          Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-03-10 22:00 +0100
            Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-03-10 22:10 +0100
              Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-10 22:30 +0100
          Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be adapted to Debian. Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-03-10 23:50 +0100
            Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-11 00:40 +0100
              Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-03-11 09:30 +0100
            Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-03-11 05:00 +0100
              Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2021-03-11 06:20 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-03-11 19:40 +0100
                Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-03-11 19:50 +0100
    Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2021-03-10 14:30 +0100
      Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-10 19:10 +0100
  Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2021-03-10 19:20 +0100
  Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be adapted to Debian. Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-03-10 23:30 +0100
    Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be  adapted to Debian. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z <santiagopinth@gmail.com> - 2021-03-11 00:30 +0100
      Re: Is there an alternative filesystem hierarchy that could be adapted to Debian. deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-03-11 07:30 +0100

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