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| From | Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations? |
| Date | 2021-03-08 02:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <BQcSB-4yn-1@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
| References | (1 earlier) <BPTPX-1tS-3@gated-at.bofh.it> <BPVoJ-2jX-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <BQ6at-rW-5@gated-at.bofh.it> <BQanL-2TI-13@gated-at.bofh.it> <BQaH8-3g5-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| Organization | less than infinite |
The Wanderer composed on 2021-03-07 18:00 (UTC-0500): > On 2021-03-07 at 17:48, Felix Miata wrote: >> Don't settle for a motherboard that lacks any M.2 ports that support >> NVME 2280 form factor storage. Prefer more than one on any board >> bigger than ITX. I've see reports of <3 second cold boot to >> multi-user times using NVME. Best I've seen here is <6 seconds with a >> cheap 120GB NVME and a two core 3.0GHz Pentium G3220 CPU. > At that point I'd expect the bottleneck is elsewhere in the system, > rather than with the storage device itself. M.2 SSDs can get *stupidly* > fast. Cheap = not so fast, e.g. barely four digit speeds or even down to only 700MB/s. I haven't spent any meaningful time trying to minimize startup bloat either. >> Also be very wary of any power supply included with a case. IME, >> these lightweight and cheaply made power supplies invariably provide >> the worst reliability of any type of electronic product I've ever >> encountered. The best power supplies are heavy. If its weight isn't >> provided in its specs, look elsewhere, for as much above 3lbs as you >> can find, preferably more than 4lbs, and if the cabling is much more >> than minimal, more than 5lbs. If not using a power hungry two-slot >> multi-fan powered-directly-by-power supply graphics card, lots of >> 3.5" drives, or multiple discrete CPUs, odds are anything more than a >> 400W power supply is overkill. Significant excess capacity wastes >> power needlessly. > Thanks for the advice. > Any power-related advice for SSDs? Nothing much. HDDs run on 12V, while 2.5" SSDs run on 5V. NVME is less clear to me so far. My last NVME 1.3 purchase reported using 3.3V, but I've seen the web suggest NVME can or does use both 3.3V and 12V. So, make sure to read the PS label to make sure the 3.3V & 5V supplies are suited to needs, while 12V not so much. Overall maximum advertised power can be misleading. It's possible to need more total advertised power simply to have enough watts at 3.3V & 5V. -- Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, is based on faith, not on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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