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On 18-10-2020 11:42, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Le 17 octobre 2020 23:03:22 GMT+02:00, Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> a
> écrit :
> 
>> On 18-10-2020 00:53, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 10:39:01PM -0700, Weaver wrote:
>> On 17-10-2020 15:05, Michael uplawski wrote:
>> Leslie Rhorer:
>> Until someone does earn respect, there is no reason anyone
>> should afford it them. It is utterly ridiculous to think everyone
>> deserves respect.
>>
>> This is where you are excluding yourself from the human community.
>> Face
>> it. Live with it. *We* will be fine, anyway.
> 
> Rubbish!
> 
> Tone not helpful here on either side.
> 
> Rubbish is rubbish
> Some may see a point in dressing it up as otherwise.
> I don't.
> 
>>> There are certain qualities which must be extended before you are
>>> worthy
>>> of receiving them, trust, loyalty, to mention a couple, but you
>>> can
>>> throw respect in there also, along with one or two others.
>>> I have to earn the respect of every child I meet, and maintain the
>>> standard every time I encounter that child in the future.
>>> Some, in their retarded viewpoint, believe respect is something
>>> engendered by social position.
>>
>> Retarded is not a helpful term here or, indeed, anywhere.
> 
> Retarded is retarded.
> You seem to prefer to believe it is aimed at an individual, when it is
> clearly applied to a viewpoint.
> 
>>> Wrong!
>>> Social position is engendered by earned level of respect.
>>> `excluding yourself from the human community', what a load of
>>> puerile
>>> ignorance!
>>
>> Puerile here is also not helpful. Considered, constructive language
>> which advances a thought through viewpoint is preferable.
>> Another way of putting it "never argue with an idiot on the
>> Internet.
>> After a couple of rounds, a dispassionate observer will not be able
>> to tell who's who"
> 
> Puerile is puerile.
> `Immature, especially in being silly or trivial; childish'.
> The terminology applies: employ it.
> `Considered, constructive language' - is language which communicates
> effectively.
> `which advances a thought through viewpoint' - Pseudo-intellectual
> waffle! 
> You know another method?
> Observation is dependent on conditioned viewpoint.
> Beginning, end, and entire middle of story.
> 
>> If you were to treat your readers with a greater consideration for
>> their intellect, you might come across better.
> 
> A discerning intellect would have not sent this to me directly, would
> have identified the aspects specified more accurately, and kept it on
> list.
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> See also Edward Gibbon - Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire,
>> chapter 2
> 
> We live in exactly those times, a classic example being played out
> before our very eyes.
> 
> You currently just are making yourself look both arrogant and
> ridiculous. 

In your perception.

I guess this is why Andrew sent his reply just to you,
> instead of giving you another shovel to dig with. 
> 
> I don't know what you are trying to achieve here, but I stand my point
> : your lack of respect for others is not welcome here.

And I stand mine: respect is a quality that needs to be earned.
I see A plethora of others who grasp the opportunity to ascend their
lecterns and preach, you being one of them, and this I can ignore, but
if it continues, and then my inbox gets cluttered with direct
communications of an incident I have long left in the rear vision
mirror, you get what you earn. One poster delivered what _you_ earned,
but there has obviously been no effort to reflect and philosophies of
convenience hold sway.
Leave the subject alone.

-- 
`Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false,
and by the rulers as useful'.

— Lucius Annæus Seneca.

Terrorism, the new religion.

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                Re: Please be respectful Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2020-10-18 14:30 +0200
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                Re: Please be respectful Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-10-18 04:10 +0200
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                Re: Please be respectful Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2020-10-18 14:40 +0200
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