Re: Please be respectful

From	Joe <joe@jretrading.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Please be respectful
Date	2020-10-26 15:00 +0100
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 14:59:16 +0200
Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sb, 24 oct 20, 03:46:20, Leslie Rhorer wrote:
> > 
> > On 10/17/2020 1:59 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:  
> > > 
> > > This could be understood that in your opinion it is ok to be rude
> > > to a person unless that person has somehow earned your respect.
> > > 
> > > Is this what you meant?  
> > 
> > 	It is neither what I said, nor what should properly be
> > inferred from it. As I already mentioned, there is a difference
> > between rudeness and disrespect.  There is also a big difference
> > between not respecting someone and being either rude or
> > disrespectful to them.  I am not quite sure it is really ever OK to
> > be rude.  I know it is never acceptable to engage in puerile
> > behavior such as name-calling or ad hominem attacks.
> > 
> > 	It is also a very different thing to reserve one's respect
> > and one's opinions until someone has proven themselves than from
> > engaging in a gratuitous, unprovoked verbal attack.  Please do not
> > attempt to extrapolate from my statements beyond reasonable logical
> > boundaries. For one thing, it is rude to do so.  (But not
> > necessarily disrespectful.)  
>  
> I'm quite certain at least part of this huge discussion is caused by 
> misunderstandings.
> 
> This is my attempt to clarify at least some of it.
> 
> Apparently I failed.
> 

It's all a bit subjective. As I understand things, a stranger deserves
politeness, and also a default value of respect, which as Leslie says,
is worth nothing as it applies to every stranger. 

Genuine, higher-than-default respect can only be earned, but politeness
should always be maintained, even in the face of rudeness. Here's
another Internet meme: wrestling with a pig gains you nothing but a
layer of mud, and amuses the pig.

-- 
Joe

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  Re: one thing i don't like about Thunar file manager Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-10-13 04:20 +0200
    Re: one thing i don't like about Thunar file manager kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> - 2020-10-14 06:30 +0200
      Re: one thing i don't like about Thunar file manager Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-10-14 08:10 +0200
        Re: one thing i don't like about Thunar file manager Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-10-14 10:30 +0200
          Re: one thing i don't like about Thunar file manager kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> - 2020-10-14 13:20 +0200
          Re: one thing i don't like about Thunar file manager Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-10-14 18:30 +0200
        Please be respectful (was: one thing i don't like about Thunar file  manager) "Christoph K." <christoph@kobenetz.de> - 2020-10-14 10:40 +0200
          Re: Please be respectful Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-10-14 11:20 +0200
            Re: Please be respectful Thomas Pircher <thp+debian@p5r.uk> - 2020-10-14 12:30 +0200
            Re: Please be respectful "Christoph K." <christoph@kobenetz.de> - 2020-10-14 17:40 +0200
            Re: Please be respectful Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2020-10-15 15:50 +0200
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                Re: Please be respectful Felmon Davis <moelmoel2714@gmail.com> - 2020-10-15 16:30 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-10-24 10:20 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-10-24 18:50 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful Doug McGarrett <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2020-10-24 19:30 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2020-10-15 17:40 +0200
            Re: Please be respectful Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2020-10-16 00:20 +0200
              Re: Please be respectful Leslie Rhorer <lesrhorer@att.net> - 2020-10-16 02:20 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2020-10-16 12:00 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful Leslie Rhorer <lesrhorer@att.net> - 2020-10-16 23:50 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful Michael uplawski <linux-gate@don.blech.e4ward.com> - 2020-10-17 07:30 +0200
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                Re: Please be respectful Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2020-10-18 03:50 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-10-18 04:10 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2020-10-18 14:30 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful Jan Foniok <jan.foniok@pikomat.mff.cuni.cz> - 2020-10-25 10:50 +0100
                Re: Please be respectful Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2020-10-25 21:10 +0100
                Re: Please be respectful Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-10-18 04:10 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful Michael uplawski <linux-gate@don.blech.e4ward.com> - 2020-10-18 12:50 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2020-10-18 14:40 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2020-10-24 18:50 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2020-10-24 19:40 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2020-10-24 19:50 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2020-10-24 22:20 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-10-17 09:00 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2020-10-17 10:40 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 14:00 +0100
                Re: Please be respectful Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-10-26 15:00 +0100
                Re: Please be respectful ellanios82 <ellanios82@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 15:50 +0100
                Re: Please be respectful <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-10-17 10:20 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful "Christoph K." <christoph@kobenetz.de> - 2020-10-18 13:50 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-18 14:00 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-10-18 14:20 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-10-18 16:50 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-19 14:00 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-10-19 14:20 +0200
                Re: Please be respectful <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-10-24 16:10 +0200
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