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Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster

From Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster
Date 2020-07-24 21:20 +0200
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On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 09:49:04PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> Aren't those files an internal implementation detail? Most users won't 
> ever need to interact with those files or even be aware of their 
> existence.

The whole design is built around "you can do this with systemctl commands,
or by manually changing symlinks around".  The files are directly exposed
to end users, and documented as such.

(I imagine that a big part of the reasoning behind this was to ease
the transition for sysv-rc users, who are/were accustomed to manipulating
symlinks in /etc/rc*.d/ directories to enable and disable services.)

>From systemctl(1):

       enable UNIT..., enable PATH...
           Enable one or more units or unit instances. This will create a set
           of symlinks, as encoded in the "[Install]" sections of the
           indicated unit files. After the symlinks have been created, the
           system manager configuration is reloaded (in a way equivalent to
           daemon-reload), in order to ensure the changes are taken into
           account immediately.

And so on.  I believe there was some page on 0pointer.de that talked
more about this, but damned if I can find it right now....

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Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster rhkramer <rhkramer.s32@gmail.com> - 2020-07-22 04:10 +0200
  Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Andrew Cater <amacater@gmail.com> - 2020-07-22 13:10 +0200
    Resolved (without understanding ;-) (was: Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster) rhkramer <rhkramer.s32@gmail.com> - 2020-07-22 20:40 +0200
      Re: Resolved (without understanding ;-) (was: Re: Error while trying  to install openssh-server on Buster) Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-22 21:00 +0200
        Re: Resolved (without understanding ;-) (was: Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-07-22 22:30 +0200
      Re: Resolved (without understanding ; -) (was: Re: Error while trying  to install openssh-server on Buster) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-07-22 21:30 +0200
        Re: Resolved (without understanding ; -) (was: Re: Error while  trying to install openssh-server on Buster) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-23 10:20 +0200
          Re: Resolved (without understanding ; -) (was: Re: Error while  trying to install openssh-server on Buster) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-07-24 01:50 +0200
            Re: Resolved (without understanding ; -) (was: Re: Error while  trying to install openssh-server on Buster) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-24 11:00 +0200
              Re: Resolved (without understanding ; -) (was: Re: Error while  trying to install openssh-server on Buster) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-24 11:10 +0200
                Antipatterns and Handcuffs [was: Re: Resolved (without understanding  ...] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-24 11:30 +0200
  Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-22 13:40 +0200
    Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2020-07-22 17:30 +0200
      Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-23 12:30 +0200
        slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server  on Buster] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-07-24 01:20 +0200
          Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster] Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-07-24 01:30 +0200
          Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install  openssh-server on Buster] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-24 13:50 +0200
            Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install  openssh-server on Buster] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-24 14:00 +0200
              Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install  openssh-server on Buster] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-24 15:30 +0200
                Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server  on Buster] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-07-24 15:50 +0200
                Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server  on Buster] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-07-24 16:00 +0200
                Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install  openssh-server on Buster] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-24 16:10 +0200
                Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install  openssh-server on Buster] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-24 16:00 +0200
                Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install  openssh-server on Buster] Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-07-24 16:00 +0200
                Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install  openssh-server on Buster] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-24 16:00 +0200
                Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install  openssh-server on Buster] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-24 16:10 +0200
            Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server  on Buster] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-07-24 14:00 +0200
        Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2020-07-24 16:10 +0200
          Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-24 16:20 +0200
            Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-24 18:00 +0200
              Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-24 20:50 +0200
                Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-24 21:20 +0200
                Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-25 11:40 +0200
    Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-07-22 20:50 +0200

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