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| From | Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster |
| Date | 2020-07-24 16:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <Aw6yB-8id-5@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
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On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 01:26:50PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >Seriously? Yes seriously. This is a pain point that could be avoided. I'm not a systemd hater. I do some quite advanced things with it. But I don't think it's above criticism, and this is an area I feel is worthy of criticism. >Could you please show me how would I create a file on *nix >containing '/' in the name? The presumption here is that unit names must be stored in files matching their name. That's a design choice. >> and also to map all mounts to units. > >What's wrong with that? As I point out in the rest of my mail, it's a combination of both decisions that results in some seriously unfriendly unit names. >> '/' gets remapped to '-', which is otherwise >> forbidden. > >Using '-' to mean '/' allows mount units to have friendly names like >media-data.mount (the mount unit must be named according to the mount >point). '-' is too commonly used in paths IMHO, to have been a good choice. dev-disk-by\x2duuid-e0eed9b6\x2d03f1\x2d41ed\x2d80a4\x2dc7cc4ff013c3.device is anything but friendly, and I have many such unit names that I reference as dependencies of others etc. The delimiter need not have been one character: a two character delimiter could have significantly decrease the need for escaping and remained legible. Even '--'. >I will argue that UUIDs are not really meant for human consumption >anyway, so the damage done is reduced. UUIDs are just one thing that expose this. the "by-uuid" part of the path there also needs escaping, as does "by-label"; any labels that happen to use '-', or VG or LV group names, etc. > There is also 'systemd-escape' to help with conversions. I didn't know about systemd-escape, thanks: that's a help, but I still feel that if some of the design decisions had been different, some pain could be avoided. -- Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎ jmtd@debian.org 🔗 https://jmtd.net
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Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster rhkramer <rhkramer.s32@gmail.com> - 2020-07-22 04:10 +0200
Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Andrew Cater <amacater@gmail.com> - 2020-07-22 13:10 +0200
Resolved (without understanding ;-) (was: Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster) rhkramer <rhkramer.s32@gmail.com> - 2020-07-22 20:40 +0200
Re: Resolved (without understanding ;-) (was: Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster) Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-22 21:00 +0200
Re: Resolved (without understanding ;-) (was: Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-07-22 22:30 +0200
Re: Resolved (without understanding ; -) (was: Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-07-22 21:30 +0200
Re: Resolved (without understanding ; -) (was: Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-23 10:20 +0200
Re: Resolved (without understanding ; -) (was: Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-07-24 01:50 +0200
Re: Resolved (without understanding ; -) (was: Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-24 11:00 +0200
Re: Resolved (without understanding ; -) (was: Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-24 11:10 +0200
Antipatterns and Handcuffs [was: Re: Resolved (without understanding ...] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-24 11:30 +0200
Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-22 13:40 +0200
Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2020-07-22 17:30 +0200
Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-23 12:30 +0200
slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-07-24 01:20 +0200
Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster] Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-07-24 01:30 +0200
Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-24 13:50 +0200
Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-24 14:00 +0200
Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-24 15:30 +0200
Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-07-24 15:50 +0200
Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-07-24 16:00 +0200
Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-24 16:10 +0200
Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-24 16:00 +0200
Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster] Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-07-24 16:00 +0200
Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-24 16:00 +0200
Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-24 16:10 +0200
Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-07-24 14:00 +0200
Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2020-07-24 16:10 +0200
Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-24 16:20 +0200
Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-24 18:00 +0200
Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-24 20:50 +0200
Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-24 21:20 +0200
Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-25 11:40 +0200
Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-07-22 20:50 +0200
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