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Re: Resolved (without understanding ; -) (was: Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster)

From <tomas@tuxteam.de>
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Subject Re: Resolved (without understanding ; -) (was: Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster)
Date 2020-07-24 11:00 +0200
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On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 06:48:10PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 23 Jul 2020 at 10:12:09 (+0200), tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

[...]

> > Hours of fun :-)
> 
> Sure, I agree. But they're hours I don't really have. That's one
> reason why I don't run a DE: I just don't understand what's going on
> behind my back, and I don't enjoy that.

Same here. Actually, even the DBus daemon is banned from my box,
which, as a (welcome) side effect keeps miscellaneous other stuff
at a safe distance ;-)

> To start at the beginning; I looked up [...]

Good analysis.

> I don't think it's a bad idea: it seems better to have people posting
> "Where's my stick?" when their newly plugged-in USB stick fails to get
> automounted, rather than "Where's the partition with all my data on it?"

Definitely, yes.

What miffs me most about those DEs is, that they fall into that antipattern
of "reinventing the world" instead of trying the slower path and negotiate
with what's there. Kind of xkcd 927 over and over again.

It's as if they were copying the disruptive antipatterns of proprietary
software companies. But we don't need those antipatterns in the free
software context, do we?

Cheers
-- t

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Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster rhkramer <rhkramer.s32@gmail.com> - 2020-07-22 04:10 +0200
  Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Andrew Cater <amacater@gmail.com> - 2020-07-22 13:10 +0200
    Resolved (without understanding ;-) (was: Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster) rhkramer <rhkramer.s32@gmail.com> - 2020-07-22 20:40 +0200
      Re: Resolved (without understanding ;-) (was: Re: Error while trying  to install openssh-server on Buster) Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-22 21:00 +0200
        Re: Resolved (without understanding ;-) (was: Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-07-22 22:30 +0200
      Re: Resolved (without understanding ; -) (was: Re: Error while trying  to install openssh-server on Buster) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-07-22 21:30 +0200
        Re: Resolved (without understanding ; -) (was: Re: Error while  trying to install openssh-server on Buster) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-23 10:20 +0200
          Re: Resolved (without understanding ; -) (was: Re: Error while  trying to install openssh-server on Buster) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-07-24 01:50 +0200
            Re: Resolved (without understanding ; -) (was: Re: Error while  trying to install openssh-server on Buster) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-24 11:00 +0200
              Re: Resolved (without understanding ; -) (was: Re: Error while  trying to install openssh-server on Buster) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-24 11:10 +0200
                Antipatterns and Handcuffs [was: Re: Resolved (without understanding  ...] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-24 11:30 +0200
  Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-22 13:40 +0200
    Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2020-07-22 17:30 +0200
      Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-23 12:30 +0200
        slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server  on Buster] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-07-24 01:20 +0200
          Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster] Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-07-24 01:30 +0200
          Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install  openssh-server on Buster] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-24 13:50 +0200
            Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install  openssh-server on Buster] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-24 14:00 +0200
              Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install  openssh-server on Buster] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-24 15:30 +0200
                Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server  on Buster] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-07-24 15:50 +0200
                Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server  on Buster] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-07-24 16:00 +0200
                Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install  openssh-server on Buster] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-24 16:10 +0200
                Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install  openssh-server on Buster] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-24 16:00 +0200
                Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install  openssh-server on Buster] Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-07-24 16:00 +0200
                Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install  openssh-server on Buster] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-24 16:00 +0200
                Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install  openssh-server on Buster] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-24 16:10 +0200
            Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server  on Buster] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-07-24 14:00 +0200
        Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2020-07-24 16:10 +0200
          Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-24 16:20 +0200
            Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-24 18:00 +0200
              Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-24 20:50 +0200
                Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-24 21:20 +0200
                Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-07-25 11:40 +0200
    Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-07-22 20:50 +0200

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