Re: KDE run Dolphin as root?

From	Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: KDE run Dolphin as root?
Date	2020-06-07 21:30 +0200
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On 07.06.20 02:42, Keith bainbridge wrote:
> On 7/6/20 8:30 am, Marco Möller wrote:
>>
>>
>> I would easily agree with you concerning not to log into a graphical 
>> session as the user root. But Dolphin is also not running with sudo 
>> prepended.
> 
> 
> 
> And here I was thinking that the dolphin issue ran here for several 
> days, just a few weeks ago.
> 
> And yes - not good idea to log into any GUI. My experience is I can't - 
> I guess by design

Yes, design options exist. However, I never tried out if the user root 
could be blocked by the graphical session manager only, in the case of 
KDE usually sddm is in use. But I know that the login of user root can 
be blocked in general: when nowadays installing Debian, then there is 
offered to keep the root account deactivated, which is achieved by 
simply not assigning it a password but to leave the root's password 
empty and then activating the sudo mechanism for the during installation 
created normal user. Then the login as user root is disabled in general, 
not applying only to GUI login but also to text terminal login. As a 
consequence it is always required to log in as a normal user and using 
the command sudo would be the way to run commands with root permissions. 
The deactivation of the root account could also be achieved later on, 
any time, not only during installation of the system, by changing the 
password of user root to an empty string. But I am afraid that you then 
will have to care yourself to set up sudo properly when still possible 
to do so as user root.

Interestingly, although having disabled the root account during 
installation and having sudo automatically configured during 
installation, it by default appears to still be allowed to run command 
"sudo su -", which still lets you run a root terminal once you have been 
logged in as the normal user and knowing the user's password needed to 
use sudo! So, for repetitive work requiring root permissions it at least 
is not necessary to prepend sudo to all root commands again and again - 
but this is still not reaching the comfort like running Dolphin with 
root permissions would do, and Dolphin also resists to start up when 
called from such root xterminal running in the normal user session.

Reminding on the question of the OP:
If in need to handle files with root permissions, I simply use sudo and 
CLI commands. Remember the above mentioned comfort option to invoke a 
root terminal by command 'sudo su -'. Then, besides on the CLI running 
nano, cp, rm and mv, maybe having available mc, using the command chown 
should be considered as well. If I am pretty sure (this is of course 
important) that it will not do any harm to change the ownership of files 
or directories to the group and name of my normal user, then chown is 
fast to do and afterwards I can continue to work with Dolphin as my 
normal user.

Thread

KDE run Dolphin as root? Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2020-06-05 23:10 +0200
  Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2020-06-06 23:30 +0200
    Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? Paul Johnson <baloo@ursamundi.org> - 2020-06-06 23:40 +0200
      Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-06-07 00:40 +0200
        Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? Keith bainbridge <keithrbau@gmail.com> - 2020-06-07 03:10 +0200
          Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-06-07 21:30 +0200
            Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-06-08 08:10 +0200
              Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-06-08 13:40 +0200
                Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2020-06-10 00:00 +0200
                Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-06-10 08:40 +0200
                Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-06-10 10:20 +0200
                Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2020-06-14 22:30 +0200
                Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? "Gary L. Roach" <garyroach719.lists@gmail.com> - 2020-06-15 21:50 +0200
                Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-06-15 22:10 +0200
                Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-06-15 22:20 +0200
                Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? Keith bainbridge <keithrbau@gmail.com> - 2020-06-16 01:00 +0200
                Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-06-16 09:30 +0200
                Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? "Gary L. Roach" <garyroach719.lists@gmail.com> - 2020-06-17 01:40 +0200
                Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? didier.gaumet@gmail.com - 2020-06-17 10:40 +0200
                Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-06-16 09:30 +0200
                Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? "Gary L. Roach" <garyroach719.lists@gmail.com> - 2020-06-17 02:00 +0200
                Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? didier.gaumet@gmail.com - 2020-06-17 10:30 +0200
                Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-06-17 11:00 +0200
                Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-06-19 05:00 +0200
                Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-06-19 10:00 +0200
                Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 16:50 +0200
                Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-06-16 09:30 +0200
    Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-06-07 00:20 +0200
  Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? Kushal Kumaran <kushal@locationd.net> - 2020-06-07 03:20 +0200
    Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2020-06-07 05:00 +0200
      Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? Kushal Kumaran <kushal@locationd.net> - 2020-06-07 06:20 +0200
      Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? Keith bainbridge <keithrbau@gmail.com> - 2020-06-07 07:20 +0200
    Re: KDE run Dolphin as root? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-06-07 06:50 +0200

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