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Debian hardware support and enablement for newer devices (was ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux)

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Hello,

> > A shout out for Hector Martinez who has been helping me a whole bunch. Without his help I likely would have given up and wouldn't even be reading the threads on this forum. If there are more people like Hector (particularly in kernel, audio and graphics) let me know!

> As I become more aware of your requirements I can help find more Hectors
> too :)

There are more companies expecting better hardware support, this issue
is not limited to Lenovo, they are willing to pay consultancy time
and/or sponsor Debian events, however on volunteer premises, it has
been really hard to provide adequate support for them, companies would
like to have quick turn around fixes, while Debian takes ages to land
something and/or to backport those changes to stable (which is the
installer advertised at our debian.org website). There is a workaround
by creating a consultancy and pay Debian developers, a la Debian LTS,
but that has been at least controversial and, to my knowledge, no
general solution has been provided.

As a project, how can we improve the current entry level to new
companies wanting support for their devices?

Note: companies now understand they need to contribute upstream first,
however that's not enough to get timely fixes to Debian.

Regards
-- 
 Héctor Orón  -.. . -... .. .- -.   -.. . ...- . .-.. --- .--. . .-.

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Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2020-06-03 18:10 +0200
  Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-06-03 18:50 +0200
  Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux Felix Lechner <felix.lechner@lease-up.com> - 2020-06-03 19:20 +0200
  Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux Mark Pearson <markpearson@lenovo.com> - 2020-06-03 20:50 +0200
    Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2020-06-03 22:50 +0200
      Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux Mark Pearson <markpearson@lenovo.com> - 2020-06-04 00:10 +0200
        Re: Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux Hideki Yamane <henrich@iijmio-mail.jp> - 2020-06-05 08:30 +0200
    Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux Philip Hands <phil@hands.com> - 2020-06-05 21:50 +0200
      Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2020-06-06 05:40 +0200
        Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux Marc Haber <mh+debian-project@zugschlus.de> - 2020-06-09 17:20 +0200
          Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2020-06-09 18:20 +0200
          Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux RP <reyadmin@gmail.com> - 2020-06-09 19:30 +0200
            Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2020-06-09 21:40 +0200
              Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux RP <reyadmin@gmail.com> - 2020-06-10 02:50 +0200
                Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux Michael Kesper <mkesper@schokokeks.org> - 2020-06-10 14:20 +0200
                Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux RP <reyadmin@gmail.com> - 2020-06-10 17:40 +0200
        Re: Debian utility live distribution (was Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux) Harshad Joshi <firewalrus@gmail.com> - 2020-06-12 07:20 +0200
        Re: Debian utility live distribution (was Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux) RP <reyadmin@gmail.com> - 2020-06-12 07:50 +0200
  Debian hardware support and enablement for newer devices (was ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux) Hector Oron <zumbi@debian.org> - 2020-06-04 00:10 +0200
    Re: Debian hardware support and enablement for newer devices (was ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux) Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2020-06-04 05:10 +0200
      Re: Debian hardware support and enablement for newer devices (was ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux) Ansgar <ansgar@debian.org> - 2020-06-05 12:40 +0200
        Re: Debian hardware support and enablement for newer devices (was ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux) Noah Meyerhans <noahm@debian.org> - 2020-06-05 19:20 +0200

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