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Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs

From Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.maint.python
Subject Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs
Date 2020-05-16 17:50 +0200
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 ❦ 16 mai 2020 08:09 -04, Paul Tagliamonte:

>> > Would it be fair to say that your main objection is that Ubuntu has
>> > much higher popularity than Debian
>>
>> This is what I regret, indeed. It's been like that for many years, and
>> the trend isn't reversing. We should ask ourselves why. From my point of
>> view, I see it as a problem of marketing more than OS content or
>> technical excellence.
>
> No, I think they do things better. Their installer is much better, and it's
> a *lot* easier to switch. They had signed UEFI images before us,
> and they enable things like firmware for wifi cards. This allows
> Ubuntu to be easier for non-technical users to install computers
> without understanding main vs contrib vs nonfree, how to disable
> SecureBoot or what a firmware package is. We have lessons
> to learn about usability and we've not learned them, and remained
> stubborn about it.

Also for servers:

 - official cloud images far before us (kudos to Zigo for bootstrapping
   the effort on our side)
 - PPA
 - HWE kernels

We still have some things better than Ubuntu:

 - backports
 - security support
 - not converting everything to Snaps
-- 
There is a great discovery still to be made in Literature: that of
paying literary men by the quantity they do NOT write.

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packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs jojo <jojo@peek-a-boo.at> - 2020-05-15 18:10 +0200
  Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2020-05-15 19:20 +0200
    Disparaging people's motivation to contribute to Debian was: Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2020-05-15 22:50 +0200
      Re: Disparaging people's motivation to contribute to Debian Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> - 2020-05-16 11:40 +0200
  Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs Martin <debacle@debian.org> - 2020-05-15 20:00 +0200
  Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2020-05-16 03:40 +0200
    Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2020-05-16 05:10 +0200
      Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2020-05-18 01:50 +0200
        Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2020-05-18 02:20 +0200
    Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2020-05-16 05:10 +0200
    Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs Paul Tagliamonte <paultag@debian.org> - 2020-05-16 14:30 +0200
      Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2020-05-16 17:50 +0200
        Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs Nicolas Chauvat <nicolas.chauvat@logilab.fr> - 2020-05-18 09:20 +0200
          Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2020-05-18 09:30 +0200
  Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs jojo <jojo@peek-a-boo.at> - 2020-05-18 11:50 +0200
    Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2020-05-18 11:50 +0200

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