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Re: Scanner software for Mac

From Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject Re: Scanner software for Mac
Date 2012-04-01 15:08 +0200
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Hi Isaac,

> Based on my experience scanning a few hundred 35mm slides, every
> transparency is its own thing, and you're not going to get a "one size
> fits all" set of parameters.

... I have scanned about 600 or 700 negative film strips now, each 4-5 
images. My experience is the same as yours, only, these strips are not 
just 35 mm, but also old 60x60, 110 and other funny formats. Colors 
even vary from image to image inside the same strip of film, no matter 
if I lock the film base color or not.

> Because of that extreme contrast ratio, I wound up having to set white
> and black levels individually for each slide, and I gave up totally on
> trying to add any sort of color or contrast correction into the mix. I
> used GIMP for all that.

... VueScan does that too, that's fine.

> And a hint: do not include any of the slide mount in the active area of
> the scan. That is a "perfect black" which is not representative of any
> part of the actual image, and it will mess with the way the scanner
> handles the dark areas of the image.

... yes, I know. :-)

> My scanner's slide holder can
> accommodate four slides, and I found it necessary to set the scan area
> individually for each slide, for each and every batch, in order to scan
> the maximum image area and none of the mount. This is due to the
> inherent lack of precision in the way the slides were positioned in the
> holder. The fact that different batches of slides came with different
> mounts (plastic, cardboard, ...) having slightly different outside
> dimensions and apertures did not help.

... I never use the plastic mounts. I put the negatives directly on the 
scanner glas. The reason is that there is no way to put a rolled up 
negative slide insode that darn mounting frame. Instead I put it on the 
glas and put another layer of glas on top of that. I went to a good 
glas manufacturer and had them make me a special white glass (mostly 
light and color neutral) so I can flatten the negative at least a 
little, increasing sharpness drastically because the slide gets 
flattened. Of course, I have to accommodate for the extra glass by 
moving the VueScan sliders a little (mostly brightness).

That's all not the problem. My problem was (or is for that matter), 
that there is no way to lock and unlock all color settings exactly as 
they are from image to image. At least I didn't find a way yet. VueScan 
determines great colors for one image and, moving the selection frame 
to the next image, the colors get crappy. What I need is, have VueScan 
determine great colors for that one image, lock all settings and have 
it not evaluate the next image but exactly apply what it found for the 
first image. That would help me a lot. VueScan's lock image color and 
lock film base color features don't *exactly* do that. Hope this 
explains better what I meant.
-- 
cul8er

Paul
paul.foerster@gmx.net

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Scanner software for Mac Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2012-03-27 11:59 +0200
  Re: Scanner software for Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-27 07:57 -0400
    Re: Scanner software for Mac Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2012-03-27 14:31 +0200
      Re: Scanner software for Mac gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2012-03-27 07:20 -0700
        Re: Scanner software for Mac jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-28 05:28 +1300
          Re: Scanner software for Mac Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2012-03-27 12:52 -0400
            Re: Scanner software for Mac jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-28 06:42 +1300
              Re: Scanner software for Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-27 14:44 -0400
                Re: Scanner software for Mac jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-28 08:17 +1300
                Re: Scanner software for Mac gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2012-03-27 13:04 -0700
                Re: Scanner software for Mac Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2012-03-27 21:01 +0000
                Re: Scanner software for Mac jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-29 02:28 +1300
                Re: Scanner software for Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-28 09:59 -0400
                Re: Scanner software for Mac jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-29 05:16 +1300
                Re: Scanner software for Mac Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-03-28 11:00 -0400
                Re: Scanner software for Mac jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-29 05:16 +1300
              Re: Scanner software for Mac Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2012-03-30 23:40 -0400
            Re: Scanner software for Mac dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-03-28 10:16 +1100
        Re: Scanner software for Mac Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2012-03-27 18:07 -0400
          Re: Scanner software for Mac gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2012-03-27 15:14 -0700
          Re: Scanner software for Mac Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-27 22:40 -0400
      Re: Scanner software for Mac isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2012-03-27 10:09 -0700
        Re: Scanner software for Mac dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-03-28 10:26 +1100
        Re: Scanner software for Mac Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2012-04-01 15:08 +0200
          Re: Scanner software for Mac Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2012-04-01 20:29 +0000
            Re: Scanner software for Mac isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2012-04-01 23:15 -0700
              Re: Scanner software for Mac "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2012-04-02 17:45 +0000
                Re: Scanner software for Mac Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2012-04-03 19:55 +0000
                Re: Scanner software for Mac Michael Siemon <mlsiemon@sonic.net> - 2012-04-03 15:14 -0700
          Re: Scanner software for Mac isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2012-04-01 22:41 -0700
            Re: Scanner software for Mac Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2012-04-02 19:42 +0200
      Re: Scanner software for Mac Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-27 22:11 -0400
        Re: Scanner software for Mac dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-03-28 14:20 +1100
          Re: Scanner software for Mac Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-28 20:56 -0400
      Re: Scanner software for Mac "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2012-04-02 17:21 +0000
        Re: Scanner software for Mac Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2012-04-02 19:50 +0200
          Re: Scanner software for Mac "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2012-04-04 02:11 +0000
            Re: Scanner software for Mac dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-04-04 13:37 +1000
              Re: Scanner software for Mac isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2012-04-03 21:01 -0700
                Re: Scanner software for Mac Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2012-04-05 15:50 +0200
                Re: Scanner software for Mac isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2012-04-05 21:23 -0700
                Re: Scanner software for Mac Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2012-04-08 10:15 +0200
            Re: Scanner software for Mac Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2012-04-05 08:51 +0200
  Re: Scanner software for Mac Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-27 22:00 -0400
    Re: Scanner software for Mac Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2012-04-01 15:09 +0200
      Re: Scanner software for Mac Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-01 16:14 +0200
      Re: Scanner software for Mac Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-04-02 00:57 -0400
        Re: Scanner software for Mac Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2012-04-02 19:35 +0200
  Re: Scanner software for Mac Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2012-03-28 22:03 +0100
    Re: Scanner software for Mac Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2012-03-28 16:26 -0700
      Re: Scanner software for Mac Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2012-03-30 00:22 +0100

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