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Re: HDD capacity stagnation

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DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> wrote:
> In the last episode of <9phdhbFratU1@mid.individual.net>, Arno
> <me@privacy.net> said:

>>Why am I not surprised. Most "revolutionary" technologies
>>never materialize. Some can later directly be identified
>>as fraud, others are just over-enthusiastic researchers
>>(which is unprofessional) or marketing people (where this
>>is expected of them).

> Don't forget researchers who describe what they've got and what it might
> mean with an appropriate level of enthusiasm who publish in an
> appropriate venue with an equally appropriate level of enthusiasm. Works
> fine until someone else writes a "next big thing" article as though the
> research is ready for production and we'll see products in the next few
> weeks.

Indeed. In this case the researcher may be enthusiastic because 
"maybe in 50 years we will have this hard problem solved!!!", 
which is perfectly fine to be enthusiastic for when you are
doing research.

> Despite the technology for something existing, it's not necessarily
> feasible to bring it to market (or even to package it up as a sellable
> package without other pieces)

Or it may be demonstrable, but efficiency is just far, far too 
bad. See, e.g.,  flying cars for normal people (not feasible 
before fundamental breakthrough in both portable energy sources 
and AI for steering)

> Imagine you design a read/write head for a hard drive that can work at
> 100,000rpm. All it takes is one idiot journalist to write up a "hard
> drive speeds improving 10x-500x with new head" to fail to notice that
> spinning platters at that speed isn't particularly feasible or practical
> for a variety of other engineering reasons.

Nice example!

> However, there are plenty of "revolutionary" technologies that we see
> become evolutionary products. SSDs are a perfect example, we've had
> flash drives for years, but only once all the pieces evolved did we
> start to see practical primary storage.

FLASH technology is about 25 years on the market now. EEPROM as 
predecessor is older. Just not in sizes and at prices where using 
them as ordinary storage made sense. We are there now and as soon 
as the right cost ratio was reached, things exploded. But the first 
lab demo is maybe 30-35 years in the past.

Arno
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HDD capacity stagnation "Tom Del Rosso" <td_03@verizon.net.invalid> - 2012-01-30 15:12 -0500
  Re: HDD capacity stagnation "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-31 08:29 +1100
  Re: HDD capacity stagnation Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-30 22:54 +0000
    Re: HDD capacity stagnation "Tom Del Rosso" <td_03@verizon.net.invalid> - 2012-01-31 18:31 -0500
      Re: HDD capacity stagnation Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-02-01 05:37 +0000
  Re: HDD capacity stagnation Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> - 2012-02-01 07:32 +1100
    Re: HDD capacity stagnation "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2012-01-31 18:55 -0500
      Re: HDD capacity stagnation Joe Kotroczo <kotroczo@mac.com> - 2012-02-01 11:27 +0100
  Re: HDD capacity stagnation DevilsPGD <Still-Just-A-Rat-In-A-Cage@crazyhat.net> - 2012-01-31 18:05 -0800
    Re: HDD capacity stagnation "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 14:35 +1100
      Re: HDD capacity stagnation DevilsPGD <Still-Just-A-Rat-In-A-Cage@crazyhat.net> - 2012-01-31 21:32 -0800
        Re: HDD capacity stagnation "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 16:58 +1100
    Re: HDD capacity stagnation Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2012-02-01 11:30 -0600
      Re: HDD capacity stagnation DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2012-02-01 20:15 -0800
        Re: HDD capacity stagnation Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-02-02 05:44 +0000
          Re: HDD capacity stagnation David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-02-02 08:51 +0100
        Re: HDD capacity stagnation "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-03 13:20 +1100
  Re: HDD capacity stagnation rb <rb.57942z@no.email.invalid> - 2012-01-31 11:56 -0600
  Re: HDD capacity stagnation Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2012-02-02 16:47 -0600
  Re: HDD capacity stagnation Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 22:23 +0800
    Re: HDD capacity stagnation Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-02-06 19:10 +0000
      Re: HDD capacity stagnation "Tom Del Rosso" <td_03@verizon.net.invalid> - 2012-02-06 14:32 -0500
        Re: HDD capacity stagnation Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-02-07 08:36 +0000
  Re: HDD capacity stagnation Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2012-02-07 11:48 -0600
    Re: HDD capacity stagnation "Tom Del Rosso" <td_03@verizon.net.invalid> - 2012-02-07 13:17 -0500
    Re: HDD capacity stagnation "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-08 07:04 +1100
    Re: HDD capacity stagnation Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-02-07 22:30 +0000
      Re: HDD capacity stagnation Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2012-02-08 11:19 +0100
        Re: HDD capacity stagnation Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-02-09 08:13 +0000
          Re: HDD capacity stagnation DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2012-02-09 16:04 -0800
            Re: HDD capacity stagnation Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-02-10 17:48 +0000
              Re: HDD capacity stagnation DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2012-02-10 11:14 -0800
    Re: HDD capacity stagnation Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> - 2012-02-12 06:23 +1100

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