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Re: Call Recording

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On 27/01/2019 08.31, VanguardLH wrote:

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Re legality. Here sometimes companies call us and say they are going to
record the call for legal reasons, for contracting some service, say. If
they are recording, so we can.

> That apps can no longer record incoming calls has nothing to do with
> legality.  It all has to do with Google deciding to remove some or all
> of an API that the apps used to record the calls (instead of the apps
> using their own code which may require rooting the phone).
> 
> https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/media/mediarecorder
> 
>   RECORD_AUDIO is considered a "dangerous" permission because it may 
>   pose a risk to the user's privacy.
> 
> As of Android 6, users got prompted when an app wanted access to a
> dangerous permission, and at some point Google decided to prompt the
> user on all of what permissions an app can have.  This didn't meant
> users were instantly and magically educated about the permissions but
> they were told an app wanted one, or more.  An app, for example, could
> run in the background and record all your calls, not just the calls you
> chose to record, and even send the recordings to somewhere.
> 
> Google did NOT disable the ability of apps to record a call in Android 9
> Pie.  What they did was change the API so *background* apps could no
> longer keep recording the incoming calls.  The user now has to take
> overt action to record a call and that meant the app must be
> foregrounded.

Ah?

> 
>   (from the above article)
>   Note: On devices running Android 9 (API level 28) or higher, apps 
>   running in the background cannot access the microphone. Therefore, 
>   your app should record audio only when it's in the foreground or when 
>   you include an instance of MediaRecorder in a foreground service.

What about the microphone apps, to record a speech, say?
Here some people use it, covertly, to record what the boss says and have
proof (example).


> That means your recording app must be foregrounded for it to record the
> call, not hiding as either a backgrounded app or running as a service.
> The recording app must now change from a hidden and automatic recording
> app to itself being a dialer that you use to make the outgoing call or
> as a substitute "phone" app that appears for you to accept an incoming
> call.  There might be other means of getting the app to appear and in
> the foreground when a new call comes in but the obvious one is to use a
> Phone app to take the incoming calls and which adds a recording option.  

Looks good to me.


> Recording apps that only record are going to get killed.  Those single-
> purpose backgrounded apps that only record a call won't work, anymore.
> However, as a phone app that has you decided to take the call and is
> foregrounded then those can still record your calls.  Or you root your
> phone to get around the limitation.



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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