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Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ?

From	Arno <me@privacy.net>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject	Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ?
Date	2012-01-02 22:28 +0000
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GMAN <Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net> wrote:
> In article <9md8d3FenfU1@mid.individual.net>, Arno <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>GMAN <Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net> wrote:
>>> In article <9m8i83Fcp5U2@mid.individual.net>, Arno <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>>GMAN <Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net> wrote:
>>>>> In article
>>>> <3c3bfc0a-253d-4d8d-867d-205122774353@d9g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,
>> christophe
>>>> colomb <christophe.colomb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>On 30 d=E9c, 12:52, Arno <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And modern HDDs often have g-sensors, just for this purpose.
>>>>>>> Also know that what you intend to do is fraud and immoral.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I did not want to fraud or being immoral : the drive only fell from
>>>>>>vertical to horizontal position and I just expected that it was not
>>>>>>the cause of the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>* Is there a way to access the g-sensors so I am sure about this ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>* Does my SMART data (cf. my first post) tends to prove that my HDD
>>>>>>was damaged by a g-shock ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If the sensors are OK, I think I could return my disk back to WD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks in advance for your help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Send it back, quit listening to some of the high and mighty pontification 
>>>>> going on and just RMA the drive.
>>>>
>>>>"High an mighty"? This increases prices for those that do not
>>>>kill their disks. Nothing "high and mighty" about that.
>>>>
>>
>>> You are the one who put the religious guilt trip on him.
>>
>>
>>I most certainly did not do anything "religious". Moral and 
>>ethics are coopted by religion frequently, but they are
>>not religious concepts. Guilt was also not my intention or
>>aim. If you belive that religion is required for wanting to
>>behave altruistic, moral or ethical than you _have_ a problem.
>>
>>

> It is a problem when you put such a trip on someone here looking for help that 
> they dont return a drive that is FULLY under warranty.

And there you are wrong. A raw HDD is a component. There is no
"expected normal use" for that, if you violate what is in
the datasheet then your warranty is gone. And they can basically
put anything in the datasheet that is technologically somewhat
justified, as this is not a device intended for end-users.

Ans since you still have no idea how little a fall it takes 
to exceed 300G (or 500G) for 2ms, I suggest you stop commenting
on the technical facts.

Arno
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How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Castor Nageur <guilbert.stabilo@gmail.com> - 2011-12-27 07:00 -0800
  Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-12-28 05:16 +1100
    Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Castor Nageur <guilbert.stabilo@gmail.com> - 2011-12-27 14:12 -0800
      Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Kirk Bubul <khbubul@charter.net> - 2011-12-27 18:30 -0600
      Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2011-12-28 17:49 +0000
        Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Castor Nageur <guilbert.stabilo@gmail.com> - 2011-12-28 13:06 -0800
          Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2011-12-28 22:41 +0000
            Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Castor Nageur <guilbert.stabilo@gmail.com> - 2011-12-29 08:40 -0800
              Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2011-12-29 17:41 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Castor Nageur <guilbert.stabilo@gmail.com> - 2011-12-29 10:12 -0800
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2011-12-30 17:11 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2011-12-31 13:58 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-01 20:31 +0000
          Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Joseph Terner <jtusenet-nospam@gmx.de> - 2011-12-29 19:11 +0000
            Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Castor Nageur <guilbert.stabilo@gmail.com> - 2011-12-29 12:57 -0800
              Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-12-30 10:16 +1100
              Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2011-12-30 11:53 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? "Salam" <salem@dogfucker.com> - 2011-12-31 04:27 +1100
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2011-12-31 13:55 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? "Salam" <salem@dogfucker.com> - 2012-01-01 05:44 +1100
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-01 02:33 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? "Salam" <salem@dogfucker.com> - 2012-01-01 14:09 +1100
              Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2011-12-30 17:13 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2011-12-31 13:57 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? "Salam" <salem@dogfucker.com> - 2012-01-01 05:48 +1100
            Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2011-12-30 11:52 +0000
              Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? christophe colomb <christophe.colomb@gmail.com> - 2011-12-30 04:06 -0800
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2011-12-30 17:16 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2011-12-31 13:49 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-01 20:19 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-02 08:32 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? "Salam" <salem@dogfucker.com> - 2012-01-02 20:00 +1100
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-02 17:56 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-02 22:28 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? "Salam" <salem@dogfucker.com> - 2012-01-03 19:48 +1100
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2011-12-31 13:48 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-01 20:17 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-02 08:36 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-02 17:57 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-02 22:30 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? "arno fucker" <af@arnofucker.com> - 2012-01-03 20:06 +1100
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Joseph Terner <jtusenet-nospam@gmx.de> - 2012-01-03 10:14 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-03 17:27 +0000
              Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Castor Nageur <guilbert.stabilo@gmail.com> - 2011-12-30 04:14 -0800
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Castor Nageur <guilbert.stabilo@gmail.com> - 2011-12-30 05:31 -0800
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2011-12-31 13:51 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Joseph Terner <jtusenet-nospam@gmx.de> - 2011-12-30 18:15 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? christophe colomb <christophe.colomb@gmail.com> - 2011-12-30 12:38 -0800
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Castor Nageur <guilbert.stabilo@gmail.com> - 2011-12-30 12:41 -0800
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-12-31 13:04 +1100
  Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2011-12-28 08:00 +0000

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