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Re: Debugger Recommendation

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On 08/30/11 09:00 AM, jacob navia wrote:
> Le 29/08/11 22:56, Ian Collins a écrit :
>> On 08/30/11 08:52 AM, jacob navia wrote:
>>> Le 29/08/11 21:51, Ian Collins a écrit :
>>>> On 08/30/11 07:37 AM, Waldek M. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm asking because I've been using gdb for years and I haven't seen
>>>>> anything better than this. It's also free, it's available
>>>>> everywhere on Linux and it just works.
>>>>> True, for GUI users, it may suck. But not because it's a bad
>>>>> debugger, only.. it has no GUI, and third party GUIs are not
>>>>> state-of-art.
>>>>
>>>> I guess those who use Eclipse or NetBeans would disagree with you about
>>>> the state of the art!
>>>>
>>>
>>> STATE OF THE ART!!!
>>>
>>> GDB STATE OF THE ART!!!
>>>
>>> Its interface hasn't changed at least since 1990.
>>
>> I was referring to the IDEs, not the debugger.
>>
>> Dressing mutton as lamb is part of an IDE designer's job!
>>
> No. I wrote a debugger complete with GUI for the lcc-win
> system and I did not use any underlying gdb or other debugger.

Does it do the hard but useful stuff like following the child and parent 
across process creation?  We all have different needs in a debugger.

>   >  Dressing mutton as lamb is part of an IDE designer's job!
>
> That's exactly what many "ide" designers think, and that is
> why the "ide"s of linux SUCK so much. They are completely USELESS.

Why do you rant so much?  There are probably many tens of thousands of 
happy, productive Eclipse and NetBeans users going about their daily 
business.  If my preferred NetBeans based IDE (Sun Studio) was 
completely useless, I'd be in a bit of a bind.

> An IDE must IMPROVE the command line programs.

They do that through visualisation and hyper-links.  Being able to see 
more than one view of a call stack, more than one collection of data or 
the status of multiple threads is where the IDE shines.

-- 
Ian Collins

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Debugger Recommendation Joseph Hesse <joeh@gmail.com> - 2011-08-29 09:40 -0500
  Re: Debugger Recommendation Victor Bazarov <v.bazarov@comcast.invalid> - 2011-08-29 11:01 -0400
  Re: Debugger Recommendation jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-08-29 19:19 +0200
    Re: Debugger Recommendation "Waldek M." <wm@localhost.localdomain> - 2011-08-29 21:37 +0200
      Re: Debugger Recommendation Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-08-30 07:51 +1200
        Re: Debugger Recommendation jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-08-29 22:52 +0200
          Re: Debugger Recommendation Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-08-30 08:56 +1200
            Re: Debugger Recommendation jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-08-29 23:00 +0200
              Re: Debugger Recommendation Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-08-30 09:21 +1200
              Re: Debugger Recommendation Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-08-30 04:58 +0100
        Re: Debugger Recommendation "Waldek M." <wm@localhost.localdomain> - 2011-08-31 21:45 +0200
      Re: Debugger Recommendation jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-08-29 22:51 +0200
        Re: Debugger Recommendation "Waldek M." <wm@localhost.localdomain> - 2011-08-31 21:11 +0200
          Re: Debugger Recommendation jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-08-31 22:17 +0200
            Re: Debugger Recommendation "Waldek M." <wm@localhost.localdomain> - 2011-09-01 07:26 +0200
  Re: Debugger Recommendation Paul <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-29 22:02 -0700
    Re: Debugger Recommendation jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-08-30 11:09 +0200
      Re: Debugger Recommendation Paul <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-30 05:26 -0700
        Re: Debugger Recommendation Oliver Jackson <chexmofo@hotmail.com> - 2011-08-30 08:25 -0700
          Re: Debugger Recommendation Paul <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-30 10:34 -0700

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