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On 2025-08-31 10:56 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 08:49:50 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-08-28 12:28 a.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>> I thought it was supposed to be a seamless replacement for the existing
>>> Xorg. What are they changing to break backward compatibility?
>>
>> I don't know because I haven't looked into it. It's a complaint made by
>> people on Reddit who reject XLibre altogether. I took them at their
>> word, but I am quite aware of how often Linux zealots lie, especially
>> the homosexual allies.
> 
> You accuse them of lying, yet you can’t be bothered to verify the facts
> for yourself. You think the facts will lie to you as well? You think maybe
> the Universe itself is gay, and you’re afraid to find out?

I didn't say _you_ lied, I said that Linux zealots routinely lie. That 
statement is so easily verifiable because there is a mass of evidence in 
this own newsgroup spanning several decades.

That said, I find it interesting that there is basically one developer 
still providing updates for X11 and he is accused of breaking things in 
what has otherwise been completely abandoned by every other developer. 
If this were cars, the situation would be that one mechanic is still 
repairing this shit Chevrolet I bought but his repairs *might* prevent 
my TPMS from working right whereas every other mechanic just ignores my 
car's existence entirely and tells me to buy an entirely new one. I am 
_very_ skeptical of the claim that his contributions broke anything 
because I don't trust what Linux zealots say, but I am not interested 
enough to find out whether any of it is true or not because Linux in 
general doesn't interest me as much as it used to.

>> XLibre is available as a fork for anyone who wants to continue using
>> X but wants it to get updates and fixes. Distributions who pride
>> themselves on giving the user choice decided not only that they
>> wouldn't carry the project, but the X11 project prohibited the
>> developer who started the project from working on it.
> 
> It’s not possible to “prohibit” anyone from working on their own fork of
> Free software. That’s what “Free as in freedom” means.
> 
> If distros don’t to use that code, it would be purely from reasons of
> (lack of) quality.
> 
> All you have to do, to prove otherwise, is to show us yourself
> successfully using the code in question.

I would have to install it, and I don't feel like doing so. 
Nevertheless, I am sure than the next few months will produce examples 
of people using the XLibre code through a more obscure distribution. 
When they emerge, I will gladly post them here. However, I am convinced 
that even when I do, the zealots will behave as though the examples 
don't exist or do everything in their power to downplay the importance 
of what was posted.

>> Additionally, as a result of Biden's executive order against rogue
>> nations having access to American software, Russian developers and their
>> contributions were blacklisted from Linux.
> 
> I checked into that. Note these were actually Europe-wide sanctions -- the
> USA couldn’t have forced this on its own.
> 
> Also, the code previously contributed from those developers remains in
> place.
> 
> This doesn’t stop the Russians from creating their own fork of the Linux
> kernel.

Which they have done.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
Islam is the enemy
John 14:6

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  Re: Alternatives To Linux "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 08:10 -0400
    Re: Alternatives To Linux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 22:04 +0000
      Re: Alternatives To Linux "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 18:24 -0400
      Re: Alternatives To Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 01:18 +0000
  Re: Alternatives To Linux Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-24 13:04 +0000
    Re: Alternatives To Linux Lester Thorpe <lt@gnu.rocks> - 2025-08-24 13:53 +0000
      Re: Alternatives To Linux Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-24 15:46 +0000
        Re: Alternatives To Linux Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-08-24 19:29 +0000
        Re: Alternatives To Linux CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 08:47 -0400
          Re: Alternatives To Linux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 21:50 +0000
            Re: Alternatives To Linux CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 18:09 -0400
              Re: Alternatives To Linux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-26 00:39 +0000
                Re: Alternatives To Linux CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 21:18 -0400
                Re: Alternatives To Linux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-26 01:49 +0000
                Re: Alternatives To Linux CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-26 09:46 -0400
                Re: Alternatives To Linux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-28 04:28 +0000
                Re: Alternatives To Linux CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-28 08:49 -0400
                Re: Alternatives To Linux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-01 02:56 +0000
                Re: Alternatives To Linux CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-01 08:51 -0400
                Re: Alternatives To Linux Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2025-09-04 10:54 +0000
                Re: Alternatives To Linux CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 11:19 -0400
                Re: Alternatives To Linux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-05 00:17 +0000
                Re: Alternatives To Linux CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 21:31 -0400
          Re: Alternatives To Linux RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 07:31 +0000
            Re: Alternatives To Linux CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-26 09:53 -0400
              Re: Alternatives To Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 19:12 +0000
              Re: Alternatives To Linux RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-27 06:30 +0000
                Re: Alternatives To Linux CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-27 09:05 -0400
                Re: Alternatives To Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 19:59 +0000
    Re: Alternatives To Linux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 22:07 +0000
      Re: Alternatives To Linux Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-30 08:59 +0000
  Re: Alternatives To Linux Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com> - 2025-08-27 11:42 +0800
    Re: Alternatives To Linux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-27 07:23 +0000
      Re: Alternatives To Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 19:55 +0000

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