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Re: Kindle, chatgpt

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Kindle, chatgpt
Date 2025-08-03 22:08 +0200
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On 2025-08-03 03:24, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> On 2025/8/2 21:59:24, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-08-02 20:16, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> 
> []
> 
>>> Incidentally: anyone know what _constitutes_ the Kindle file? In the
>>> folder B01N41TEO3_EBOK created in "My Kindle Content" during download
>>> (though the process seemed far more complex than just a download), there
>>> are multiple files: B01N41TEO3_EBOK.azw nearly 50 MB, lots of .res and
>>> one .md file with long names just of characters of sozes about 1 to 3
>>> MB, and a 1.05 KB .voucher file. Are all these part of the book, or just
>>> the .azw file (if just that one, what are the rest)?
>>
>> I don't know, but you can ask an AI, like https://chatgpt.com/  :-)
>>
> 
> I thought I'd try - first time I've deliberately actually used AI
> (though I've noticed the first answer from search results is often AI
> these days, rather than links).
> 
> I think I asked it "What constitutes a Kindle book?"; I got back
> something like the .azw file. which is based on Mobi. I then was typing
> something like "Is the AZW file the entire Kindle book?", but - I
> _think_ before I pressed enter - I got something like unusual activity
> has been detected from your address, and it redirected me to
> https://auth.openai.com/log-in, which seems to be some sort of login
> page. Now, if I try to go to https://chatgpt.com/, I get the ChatGPT
> page - for about four seconds, then it changes to the login one - OK,
> with Welcome back above the boxes.
> 
> I was going to give in and register, but it kept crashing!

Uff. Maybe it doesn't like your computer or your IP for some reason. 
Maybe it detects some virus activity???

I'll ask it for you and post the answer.

Q: Some one I know is asking this question; I don't know about it, but 
you probably do: anyone know what _constitutes_ the Kindle file? In the
folder B01N41TEO3_EBOK created in "My Kindle Content" during download
(though the process seemed far more complex than just a download), there
are multiple files: B01N41TEO3_EBOK.azw nearly 50 MB, lots of .res and
one .md file with long names just of characters of sozes about 1 to 3
MB, and a 1.05 KB .voucher file. Are all these part of the book, or just
the .azw file (if just that one, what are the rest)?


A: Yes, that’s a great and detailed question — and you're right to sense 
that Kindle eBook downloads involve more than just a simple file.

Here’s what’s going on in the **"My Kindle Content"** folder when you 
download a Kindle eBook via Kindle for PC (or Mac):

---

### 📁 Folder Breakdown for `B01N41TEO3_EBOK`:

This folder represents **one Kindle book**, and it typically contains 
**multiple files**:

#### ✅ 1. `B01N41TEO3_EBOK.azw` (or `.azw3`, `.azw4`)

* This is the **main eBook file**.
* It contains the **book’s content** (text, formatting, metadata).
* File size suggests it holds everything from text to embedded images.

#### ✅ 2. `.res` files

* These are **resource files** used by the Kindle app.
* May include:

   * **Images**
   * **Font files**
   * **Tables of contents**
   * Other layout or support data
* Usually tied to **enhanced typesetting** or **page layout precision**.
* Not essential for DRM-free reading elsewhere, but necessary for 
**Kindle reader features** like X-Ray or Page Flip.

#### ✅ 3. `.md` file (name of long character string)

* Likely a **metadata database** file used by the Kindle app.
* May store user-specific data such as:

   * **Reading position**
   * **Bookmarks**
   * **Annotations**
   * **Sync information**

#### ✅ 4. `.voucher` file

* A **digital rights/license** file.
* Confirms your ownership and right to open the book on your Amazon account.
* If you try to move the `.azw` file to a different Kindle account, it 
**won’t open** without matching this voucher.

---

### 🧠 TL;DR – What constitutes "the book"?

* The **`.azw` file** is the core eBook file — if you're asking "what 
holds the book's content," it's this one.
* The **`.res`, `.md`, and `.voucher`** files are:

   * **Supporting files** for Kindle's app functionality and DRM 
enforcement.
   * Required if you're **reading within Kindle for PC/Mac**.
   * Not necessary if you remove DRM and convert to another format (e.g. 
EPUB with Calibre).

---

Let me know if your friend is trying to **back up, move, or convert** 
the book — I can walk through that depending on legality and usage rights.


Q: Thanks. I'll forward your answer

A: You're very welcome! Feel free to pass it along — and if your friend 
has follow-up questions (technical or otherwise), just send them my way. 
Happy reading! 📚



As you can see, this thing can keep a conversation. Sometimes the answer 
makes no sense, the AI "hallucinates". Anyway, it is impressive. It 
oftens posts the sources as links on the side; not this time, but you 
can ask it.



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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