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Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters
Date 2025-07-27 20:12 +0200
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On 2025-07-27 19:22, WolfFan wrote:
> On Jul 27, 2025, J. P. Gilliver wrote
> (in article <1065g82$1kcc7$7@dont-email.me>):
> 
>> On 2025/7/27 15:8:57, WolfFan wrote:
>>> On Jul 27, 2025, J. P. Gilliver wrote
>>> (in article <10659gp$1kcc7$5@dont-email.me>):

...

>>> I use calibre to de-DRM and convert Kindle files to EPUB and stick them far
>>
>> Can you point me at calibre? (I suspect googling that word would bring
>> me lots of hits on guns and ammunition!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calibre_(software)

...

>>> encumbered by DRM, and I buy a lot of that kind of book. I also buy from
>>> sources which aren’t as annoying with the DRM and de-DRM using calibre.
>>> Amazon can’t touch an EPUB stored on a volume other than the volume
>>> containing the Kindle content. I use an ebook reader not from Amazon (or
>>> Apple, or Kobo...) to access de-DRMed content.
>> Ah, so even when converted to "EPUB", you still need a special
>> "reader".If (some) publishers/authors insist their stuff isn't DRM'd, is
>> there a reason these works are in EPUB, rather than, say, .pdf, .rtf,
>> .txt, or .doc(x)?
> 
> EPUB does book-type things better than PDF or RTF or DOC(X). TXT doesn’t do
> images or formatting and so isn’t suitable for a lot of books. EPUB flows
> better, can handle chapters (if present) better, and can display better on
> many devices. PDF is the best of the above formats, but isn’t as good as
> EPUB for most books.

It doesn't reflow. On epub you can choose the font and font size, the 
entire book reflows and changes the number of pages. With PDF you can 
not do this. Ok, you can sometimes, but it is a kludge.

When reading on an electronic book changing the font size is an 
important feature, to adapt to your eyesight and preferences.

> Amazon’s Kindle formats (there are at least a half
> dozen) range from about as good as EPUB to slightly better tham PDF. There
> are a _lot_ of ebook readers out there, virtually all of which can handle
> EPUB but not necesarily Kindle formats, mostly due to DRM.
> 
> I like calibre. It’s free and can handle most formats, though it may choke
> on some Kindle DRM if you don’t have the correct 3rd-party extensions
> loaded. The main problem is the actual reader sub app has its quirks. That,
> and the fact that there’s no calibre for iPad, so I have to use something
> else there. I used to use Marvin, but that’s dead and I’m trying out
> alternatives. Apple’s Books isn’t bad, and will take de-DRMed EPUBs, but
> I prefer something not from The Mothership, mostly because Books insists on
> sticking the library onto iCloud so that you ‘can share the content with
> all devices logged in with your AppleID or with Family Sharing’ and I’d
> really rather not. Especially as I would have to be online to access iCloud
> in the first place.

With Kobo it is possible to dedrm a book, and have it on the structure 
maintained by Calibre instead of Kobo's own.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-27 14:27 +0100
  Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2025-07-27 10:08 -0400
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-27 16:22 +0100
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2025-07-27 09:18 -0700
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2025-07-27 13:22 -0400
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-27 20:12 +0200
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 04:47 +0100
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2025-09-18 18:06 -0700
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-09-19 06:42 +0100
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2025-07-27 19:26 +0100
  Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-07-27 16:22 +0100
  Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-27 20:14 +0200
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 04:22 +0100
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-28 14:31 +0200
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-28 14:28 +0000
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 16:58 +0100
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 14:40 +0200
              Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-07-30 04:28 +0200
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-30 22:03 +0100
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 14:30 +0200
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-28 15:40 +0100
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 17:09 +0100
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-28 20:50 +0100
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-29 01:04 +0100
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-29 13:43 +0000
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 19:13 +0200
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-29 23:08 +0100
              Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-31 09:54 +0000
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-07-28 11:04 -0500
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 17:13 +0100
  Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2025-07-27 19:22 +0100
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-27 20:52 +0200
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-07-27 15:16 -0500
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 04:34 +0100
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-07-27 23:05 -0500
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2025-07-28 10:04 +0100
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 12:02 +0100
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2025-07-28 16:59 +0100
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 17:30 +0100
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-28 14:34 +0200
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 17:21 +0100
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 14:45 +0200
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-29 23:12 +0100
              Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-30 02:47 +0200
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2025-07-30 08:50 -0700
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-30 22:07 +0100
  Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-07-28 06:25 +0200
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-28 14:37 +0200
  Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Bennett Price <bjprice@cal.berkeley.edu> - 2025-07-28 12:48 -0700
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-29 01:10 +0100
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 14:48 +0200
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-29 23:23 +0100
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-30 02:58 +0200
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-30 22:23 +0100
              Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-31 15:30 +0200
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-31 16:11 +0100
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-31 22:39 +0200
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-01 21:03 +0100
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 03:42 +0200
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 08:30 +0100
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2025-08-02 10:31 +0100
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 19:32 +0100
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 14:33 +0200
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 16:55 +0100
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-08-02 18:06 +0200
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 19:16 +0100
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 22:59 +0200
                Kindle, chatgpt "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-03 02:24 +0100
                Re: Kindle, chatgpt "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-03 22:08 +0200
                Re: Kindle, chatgpt "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-04 03:09 +0100
                Re: Kindle, chatgpt "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-04 12:46 +0200
                Re: Kindle, chatgpt "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-04 12:03 +0100
                Re: Kindle, chatgpt "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-04 13:43 +0200
                Re: Kindle, chatgpt Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-04 12:56 +0000
                Re: Kindle, chatgpt Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-04 14:35 -0400
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-08-02 18:21 +0200
  Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-04 13:05 +0000
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-06 23:20 +0100
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 14:43 +0200

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