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Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed.

Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Date	2016-08-14 13:05 -0700
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Subject	Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed.
From	astrofoton@interia.pl

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W dniu niedziela, 14 sierpnia 2016 02:10:49 UTC+2 użytkownik rotchm napisał:
> On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 7:30:00 PM UTC-4, astro...@interia.pl wrote:
> > W dniu niedziela, 14 sierpnia 2016 00:01:29 UTC+2 użytkownik rotchm napisał:
> 
> > > Time to arrive is L/v. The moved clock will indicate (L/v)√(1-b^2).
> > > The difference is 
> > > 
> > > (L/v)( 1 - √(1-b^2)) = (L/v)( v^2/(2c²) + o(4) ) = L( v/(2c²) + o(3) )
> > > Thus, for v sufficiently small, the difference is Lv/(2c²). 
> > > Suffice to chose a v such that Lv/(2c²) is smaller that the exp error(s).
> > 
> > no, 
> 
> How so? Shw me where I erred in the math. Its all there in the 3 lines.
> 
> 
> > there is possibility;
> 
> In english plz?
> 
> > for small speed:
> > dt(L)/t(L) = 0.5 v^2/c^2 = const;
> 
> Wrong.
> 
> t(L) = L/v --> dt(L) = d(L)/v. 
> Thus dt(L)/t(L) = (d(L)/v)/(L/v) = d(L)/L. 
> So you are wrong. And why would you want to evaluate dt(L)/t(L) anyways ??
> 
> 
> 
> > the correct result includes a number of odrer:
> > v^4/c^4, thus absolute irrelevant for the condition
> > of the slow transport: v/c -> 0.
> 
> In english plz...
> 
> > You can measure something in the opposite case: v ~ c, only;
> 
> In english plz...
> 
> > what is quite contradictory to the presumed conditions already.
> 
> What you write makes no sense. So either you are an idiot/troll, or just very bad at explaining in english. Work on that before posting so that you may be understood.

Indeed. I'm too smart for you. :)

dt/t = 0.5 v^2/c^2

but using a fact: L = vt, thus: v = L/t

dt/t = 0.5 L^2/t^2c^2 = 

dt = 0.5 L^2/c^2 / t

... and what is it?

tdt = 0.5 L^2/c^2 = A/2 = const


t^2 = At + C.
C = 0 ->
t = A = const (= inv). :)

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