Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]
Groups > alt.folklore.computers > #216767
| From | Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.folklore.computers |
| Subject | Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) |
| Date | 2021-01-31 19:32 -0400 |
| Organization | Bridgewater Institute for Advanced Study - Blacksmith Shop |
| Message-ID | <87zh0ok7h3.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> (permalink) |
| References | <rtnkpc$b1m$1@dont-email.me> <ad651480-f5bf-463c-bbc3-03b801764c5an@googlegroups.com> |
"robertth...@googlemail.com" <robertthebilling@googlemail.com> writes: > On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 at 20:22:06 UTC, gareth evans wrote: > >> Are there any other technologies that have had comparable >> periods of accelerated development? The first guns -- 2 of them -- were imported to Japan in the 1540s. A couple of decades later, gunsmithing was a major industry with thousands being produced. At the battle of Nagashino in 1575, hundreds of arquebusiers under Oda Nobunaga and Tokugawa Hideyoshi pretty much ended classical Japanese warfare by wiping out the whole Takeda army. (There's a great Kurosawa movie about it: Kagemusha.) AFAIK, there was little of no improvement or innovation in gun design but by Nagashino there were far more guns deployed in Japan than in Elizabeth's England so the craft/industry ramped up at phenomenal speed. -- Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada
Back to alt.folklore.computers | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread
Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 20:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "A.T. Murray" <mentificium@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 12:39 -0800
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-13 20:59 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> - 2021-01-13 13:16 -0800
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 22:18 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 11:45 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-01-14 10:06 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-14 17:16 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2021-01-14 15:04 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 10:16 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 14:56 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 15:42 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-14 17:12 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 18:43 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-14 19:50 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 21:38 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 18:54 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-15 00:11 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-15 01:00 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 23:32 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-15 21:56 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-14 16:00 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 14:07 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 21:20 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-14 18:01 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 23:41 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-15 02:21 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-17 11:00 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-17 11:59 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-17 17:44 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-17 19:10 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-18 11:42 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2021-01-18 12:29 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 10:23 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-18 12:12 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-18 09:17 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 10:07 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 10:14 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-19 10:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 11:17 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-19 12:13 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 21:39 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-19 18:08 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-20 04:22 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-21 07:44 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-22 17:49 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-23 15:24 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-23 20:24 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-24 12:49 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-24 13:13 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-24 22:30 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-25 07:00 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 21:56 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-26 08:28 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-26 09:35 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 21:51 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 04:41 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:03 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-27 07:03 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-27 09:50 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:34 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 12:29 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:53 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2021-01-27 19:46 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-27 20:41 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2021-01-27 13:00 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:39 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-28 17:39 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:51 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-30 09:56 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-25 15:46 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-25 17:52 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-25 18:30 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-25 18:37 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-25 19:33 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 01:37 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2021-01-28 00:13 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-27 20:58 -0500
Re: just in case, Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-28 18:57 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-29 11:14 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 16:59 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-30 17:22 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-30 18:09 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-25 19:31 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 22:19 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-26 16:27 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-26 22:22 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-27 20:34 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:48 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-25 19:42 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-25 15:45 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-25 19:20 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Joacim Melin <Joacim.Melin@f1.n221.z2.fidonet.fi> - 2021-01-25 20:33 +0200
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 22:12 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-26 03:47 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-26 16:42 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-26 22:11 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-27 08:36 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:52 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-01-29 23:19 +0200
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 21:13 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-26 22:19 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 16:48 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-30 17:26 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-30 20:06 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-30 14:38 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:47 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:50 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 12:14 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 15:55 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 20:13 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-28 09:48 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:44 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-27 01:33 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-27 13:05 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-27 12:29 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:17 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-27 18:42 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-27 22:21 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 16:40 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-30 16:04 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-31 16:06 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-31 21:35 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 14:15 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-02-01 16:54 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-02-01 09:54 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-01 18:12 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-02 04:26 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-25 16:02 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-26 01:47 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-26 08:23 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-26 09:42 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-26 10:16 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:21 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 11:01 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 18:31 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:23 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 22:35 -0500
Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-26 04:15 +0000
Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-25 23:32 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2021-01-26 04:58 -0800
Re: Learning European languages Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-26 13:18 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Learning European languages Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-27 17:55 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 05:12 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-26 11:59 +0100
Re: Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-26 13:58 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-26 15:10 +0100
Re: Learning European languages Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 19:07 -0400
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:59 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-27 07:44 +0100
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:54 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:20 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-28 11:06 +0100
Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 08:42 -0500
Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 15:26 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 18:47 +0000
Re: Learning European languages lawrence <lawrence@cluon.com> - 2021-01-28 12:54 -0600
Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 20:06 +0000
Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 20:04 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:45 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-02-20 18:22 +0100
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-20 13:12 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-02-21 15:36 +0100
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-21 17:49 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Fred Smith <fred@thejanitor.corp> - 2021-01-29 01:47 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-01-31 18:09 +0200
Re: Learning European languages Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-28 10:27 +0000
Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 11:31 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:50 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-26 13:56 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Learning European languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-01-26 22:23 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 23:15 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-27 00:06 -0500
Re: Learning European languages JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:58 -0600
Re: Learning European languages Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 12:17 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Learning European languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-28 16:03 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 23:00 +0000
Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-28 23:06 -0400
Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-29 17:08 +0000
Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-29 16:34 -0400
Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-29 19:58 -0500
Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 23:30 -0500
Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 16:24 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 23:00 +0000
Re: Learning European languages "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-28 22:12 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-28 22:44 -0400
Re: Learning European languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-29 20:01 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-01-31 19:48 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Learning European languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-01-31 20:02 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 12:03 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 18:34 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) jolomo@gmail.com (Joe Morris) - 2021-01-26 19:17 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 13:46 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:26 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-27 11:35 +0000
Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-27 20:46 -0500
Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:10 +0000
Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-28 10:04 -0600
Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 18:47 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 16:16 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:25 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 06:46 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-27 17:49 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-27 18:41 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:47 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:12 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 12:30 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-28 15:52 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 21:57 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 13:43 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-26 20:49 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:31 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2021-01-27 00:10 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:34 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:01 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-27 04:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:31 -0500
Re: linguistic miracles, Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-28 19:13 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-26 14:05 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 16:34 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:57 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-29 19:55 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-30 04:58 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 21:56 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-27 11:32 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 12:24 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-27 13:11 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-29 04:05 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-29 16:45 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:55 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 19:45 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 16:00 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2021-01-28 00:13 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-27 19:00 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:43 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-28 10:10 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 16:19 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 14:37 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-28 20:31 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-28 22:15 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-29 11:16 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-29 12:18 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-29 17:08 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-29 10:21 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-29 17:04 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-29 17:15 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-29 17:14 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-29 11:58 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-29 14:38 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-29 21:02 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-01-30 14:09 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-31 00:09 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-01-30 20:27 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-31 05:35 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-31 01:37 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-26 21:18 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-26 21:57 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:38 -0500
Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-27 04:27 +0000
Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 06:42 +0000
Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-27 18:45 +0000
Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) Juergen Nieveler <juergen.nieveler.nospam@arcor.de> - 2021-02-01 15:00 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 09:39 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-02-26 14:22 -0800
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-02-26 22:40 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-26 23:28 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2021-02-27 10:43 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-27 10:22 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-28 20:59 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-28 22:50 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-26 08:09 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-02-02 02:02 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-02-02 04:38 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-02 11:20 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-18 17:16 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 10:04 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-19 17:58 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-17 22:47 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 22:12 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Daniel <me@sci.fidan.com> - 2021-02-23 22:04 -0800
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-24 09:27 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-24 17:33 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 19:23 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-25 18:28 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-26 00:05 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 12:51 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-02-24 17:23 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 15:45 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-25 05:03 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-25 09:59 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-25 16:52 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2021-02-25 19:38 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-02-25 19:44 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-25 21:46 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-26 05:19 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-26 12:59 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-26 20:53 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-27 10:51 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-27 11:19 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-27 10:17 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-25 18:28 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-26 13:52 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-02-26 10:53 -1000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-25 18:29 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-26 12:56 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charles Richmond <codescott@aquaporin4.com> - 2021-09-29 12:27 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-09-29 17:34 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 13:32 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-09-30 01:50 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:10 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-09-29 19:54 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-09-30 01:48 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-09-30 12:51 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-01 22:03 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-10-02 13:33 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-10-02 19:56 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "robertth...@googlemail.com" <robertthebilling@googlemail.com> - 2021-01-31 05:32 -0800
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-31 15:58 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-01-31 21:27 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-31 22:11 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-01-31 22:50 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 14:08 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-02-01 17:49 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 18:41 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-02-01 19:01 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-31 19:32 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-01 09:24 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 11:45 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-01 21:34 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-01 18:19 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-02 04:26 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-02 01:13 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-02 06:50 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charles Richmond <codescott@aquaporin4.com> - 2021-09-29 12:12 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-02 09:21 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Robin Vowels <robin.vowels@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 05:32 -0800
csiph-web